Thanks Erhan!  That's excellent news!

> At that time, the list of trusted certificates disclosed to 
> https://support.google.com/a/answer/7448393?hl=en will be updated

Whilst you're preparing this update, please also review/update the CA Owner 
names on that page.  (I'm particularly keen to see "Comodo" updated to 
"Sectigo" :-) ).

________________________________
From: Erhan Nergiz <[email protected]>
Sent: 10 April 2024 18:19
To: CCADB Public <[email protected]>
Cc: Andy Warner <[email protected]>; Ryan Dickson <[email protected]>; 
CCADB Public <[email protected]>; Rob Stradling <[email protected]>; Nicolas 
Lidzborski␄ <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Google's S/Mime trusted list Inclusion

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Hi,

An update of Gmail’s S/MIME trusted roots is currently underway, and we expect 
the updated trust list to land in approximately 4 weeks. At that time, the list 
of trusted certificates disclosed to 
https://support.google.com/a/answer/7448393?hl=en will be updated and we will 
follow up with this community.
For the time being, while we continue to consider resourcing and 
operationalizing a dedicated root program like we see with Chrome’s, we will 
plan regular updates to this list following the set of S/MIME roots trusted by 
NSS.

Thanks,
Erhan, on behalf of the Gmail Security team
On Tuesday, April 9, 2024 at 10:27:36 AM UTC-7 Andy Warner wrote:
The Gmail team is currently working on an update. We've passed along 
suggestions about improving comms back to submitters and providing public info 
about their update cadence.

On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 10:01 AM 'Rob Stradling' via CCADB Public 
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Ryan.  That page<https://support.google.com/a/answer/7448393> is still dated 
February 2020, and despite filling in that 
form<https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScoF0R5fbyp83ln2PJ-4i5EVReDcZN9IGJVmGuNQDG6HAel7w/viewform>
 in June 2023 we have not been contacted by the Gmail Team.

Are you able to share any updates or even ETAs from your side?  Is the Gmail 
Team still planning to "action CA inclusion requests"?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

________________________________
From: 'Ryan Dickson' via CCADB Public <[email protected]>
Sent: 22 June 2023 20:28
To: Francisco Marques <[email protected]>
Cc: CCADB Public <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Google's S/Mime trusted list Inclusion

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Hi all,


Following-up: The Gmail Team is planning an update to this 
page<https://support.google.com/a/answer/7448393?hl=en> to help better answer 
the community's questions and help action CA inclusion requests.


In the interim, they created this 
form<https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScoF0R5fbyp83ln2PJ-4i5EVReDcZN9IGJVmGuNQDG6HAel7w/viewform>
 to allow interested parties to connect with members of the Gmail Team.


We've also directly shared the list of POCs who expressed interest in S/MIME 
for Gmail 1) on this thread and 2) at the recent CA/Browser Forum Face-to-Face. 
I encourage all interested parties to respond to the form, regardless of 
whether they've previously expressed interest.


Thank you for your patience!


- Ryan



On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 11:27 AM Francisco Marques <[email protected]> 
wrote:

Hi Ryan,
DigitalSign thanks you for the efforts on helping us on this subject.
We will wait for additional information.
Best regards,
Francisco Marques.
Em sexta-feira, 16 de junho de 2023 às 14:20:41 UTC+1, Ryan Dickson escreveu:
Hi all,

We're still working with our colleagues within Google to identify an 
appropriate POC to help with these requests.

We appreciate your continued patience and will follow up as soon as possible.

- Ryan


On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 4:30 AM dr. Szőke Sándor <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi,



we would need the same contact information too.



Microsec is already included on the trusted CA list for S/MIME with one Root 
certificate, but we set up a new ECC based hierarchy in 2017, and we would like 
to finish the transition to this hierarchy.



We tried to contact Google in March but we had no success.



Sándor





From: 'Antti Backman' via CCADB Public <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 9:38 AM
To: CCADB Public <[email protected]>
Cc: Ryan Dickson <[email protected]>; CCADB Public <[email protected]>; 
Francisco Marques <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Google's S/Mime trusted list Inclusion



Hi,



We're experiencing similar challengies, so would it be possible to have the 
same help for us also, thanks



Antti Backman, on behalf of Telia Company.



perjantai 2. kesäkuuta 2023 klo 20.47.26 UTC+3 Ryan Dickson kirjoitti:

Hi Francisco,



We've engaged with our colleagues who manage the set of CA certificates trusted 
by Gmail for S/MIME on your behalf.



Someone should reach out to you shortly.



Thanks,

Ryan



On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 1:32 PM Francisco Marques <[email protected]> 
wrote:

Hello All,

My name is Francisco Marques and I'm speaking on behalf of DigitalSign.

DigitalSign is a European eIDAS QTSP, which currently already has 2 root CAs 
included in Mozilla trusted list.

The reason I'm opening this chat is due to the fact that DigitalSign s trying 
to apply for the inclusion of its issuing CAs into the trusted store for Gmail 
S/MIME (the end user certificates are S/MIME certificates used for digital 
signature and email signature).

Additional info: https://support.google.com/a/answer/7448393

Unfortunately, we are unable to proceed due to contact absence and lack of 
reply on the general contacts.

Since there's no specific channel for this subject, we will be grateful for any 
help/information anyone can give/share with us.

Thank you very much!

Best regards,

Francisco Marques, speaking on behalf of DigitalSign.



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