The UN Special Rapporteur is always a good ally, I guess. Kaye may be held up by the enforcement drafts right now, though:
http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Issues/Opinion/Legislation/OL-DEU-1-2017.pdf Or maybe that adds up together with Art 13? I don't know. What I was getting at was building a bridge within the lawyer community, from the island of IP to the rest of the lawyer world. 2017-06-13 15:11 GMT+02:00 Jan Gerlach <[email protected]>: > Thanks for the update, John (and Dimi). > > By now, it has become apparent that this is not just an intellectual > property issue. I was thinking that maybe a statement by David Kaye, UN > Special Rapporteur on Freedom of Expression, would be helpful. He is > increasingly looking at the role of the private sector in promoting freedom > of expression online and presented his report on ISPs > <https://www.article19.org/resources.php/resource/38786/en/un-expert-calls-on-internet-access-providers-to-respect-free-expression> > today. Thus, laws that would mandate filtering systems are certainly of > interest to him/his office. I am not sure about the protocol for the > Special Rapporteur to comment on proposed legislation, though. > > Has anyone seen him talk about the proposed copyright directive, > especially Art. 13? In a quick skim of his Twitter stream I only saw that > he retweeted Daphne Keller's piece in the New York Times > <https://twitter.com/davidakaye/status/874323409844436994>. > > Best, > Jan > > > On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 5:34 AM John Hendrik Weitzmann < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> re yesterday's GRUR meeting: >> >> There was, according to Dimi, close to now relevant attendance by MEPs >> and Commission. >> >> At the same time, to have/keep Art. 13 in some form seems to be a sort of >> (almost scary) general view amongst the legal experts group. >> >> Question thus is, how do we counter that? There must be a separate group >> of legal experts, beyond the bubble of IP lawyers, that understand the >> implications of Art. 13's framework at its potential to be abused. Maybe >> constitutional judges? Human rights lawyers? >> >> Greetz >> John >> >> >> 2017-06-02 8:54 GMT+02:00 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < >> [email protected]>: >> >>> Dear Henning, >>> >>> Thank you for reminding me! I am, in fact, registered to the GRUR >>> meeting and re-confirmed my presence last week. >>> >>> I agree that people (including MEPs from the EPP in most committees) are >>> quite willing to exclude Wikipedia and the like from Art. 13. At the same >>> time it seems like there is a majority to not delete Art. 13 completely. >>> The question now is where to draw the line and how to best phrase it. >>> >>> Thanks and cheers, >>> >>> Dimi >>> >>> 2017-06-01 16:58 GMT+02:00 Henning Schlottmann <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> Hi Dimi, >>>> >>>> I'd like to repeat my note regarding the GRUR meeting on the single >>>> market directive on June 12 in Brussels and my suggestion to attend if >>>> possible at all. >>>> >>>> There you might be able to reach the people who can make it possible to >>>> exclude wikipedia from the upload filter requirements. >>>> >>>> This would not be the big win liability exemption for all user >>>> generated content but at least non-profit platforms could and must be >>>> exempt. >>>> >>>> In my talks every single person assured me that they do not intend to >>>> cover wikipedia with the regulation. So it should be possible to exclude >>>> non-profits. >>>> >>>> Rgds >>>> >>>> Henning >>>> >>>> -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -------- >>>> Von: Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <[email protected]> >>>> Datum: 01.06.17 11:38 (GMT+01:00) >>>> An: Publicpolicy Group for Wikimedia <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> Betreff: [Publicpolicy] EU Policy Monitoring Report - May >>>> >>>> tl;dr >>>> >>>> An all important Internal Market Committee (IMCO) vote on copyright is >>>> next week. As IMCO has joint responsibility on this file, their final >>>> wording on the “upload filtering” article is crucial. {{ACTION REQUIRED}} >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This and past reports: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ >>>> wiki/EU_policy/Monitor >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> === >>>> >>>> Copyright reform - Internal Market Committee Vote >>>> >>>> --- >>>> >>>> All important vote: With exactly one week to go until the vote in the >>>> Internal Market Committee (8 June), the largest political group, the EPP, >>>> has entrenched itself and is trying get a majority for something that can >>>> only be defined as extremist. [1][2][3] While rapporteur Catherine Stihler >>>> (S&D UK) has been working for months to find a compromise that assures >>>> liability exceptions and freedom of speech provisions for open platforms >>>> like Wikipedia remain in place and content recognition systems don’t become >>>> compulsory, [4] the EPP has last week left the negotiating table. Instead, >>>> their shadow rapporteur Pascal Arimont (EPP BE) has circulated “Alternative >>>> Compromise Amendments” on the publishers right and the upload filtering >>>> provision. [5][6] >>>> >>>> --- >>>> >>>> Is it really this bad?: Yes! The proposal on a a press publishers >>>> ancillary copyright that lasts for 50 years (instead of 20 in the >>>> Commission proposal), applies to academic publications (which weren't >>>> included) and to offline uses (also not included in the original text). As >>>> to upload filtering: Any platform that allows user uploads and does >>>> anything more than simply displaying such content will be stripped of the >>>> liability exemption provided for in Article 14 of E-Commerce Directive. >>>> This means that all open platforms, from Wikipedia to GitHub, will be >>>> liable for any infringements by their users. >>>> >>>> --- >>>> >>>> The EPP game plan: They have been getting the shorter end of the stick >>>> in many committees on upload filtering and the press publishers right. By >>>> taking an extreme position, they either want to force the other groups to >>>> give in during compromises or poison the well and sabotage the reform as a >>>> whole. Either way, in the coming seven days they will be trying to split as >>>> many voting members of the Socialists and Liberals group as possible to get >>>> a committee majority. They have managed to do this in the past. >>>> >>>> --- >>>> >>>> Our game plan: Don’t panic, but get we need to hold onto a majority! >>>> This is the first crucial vote and it is a black-and-white one. We either >>>> manage to keep a majority behind the very sensible compromises by Ms. >>>> Stihler (that, btw, include Freedom of Panorama and Safeguard the Public >>>> Domain) or the EPP gets its way and we will end up having to defend the >>>> current status quo rather than working on positive change. The best thing >>>> we can do is contact the voting MEPs in this committee. In order not to >>>> waste time on the hardliners, here’s a list of people we believe are swing >>>> votes: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Nicola Danti (S&D IT): Coordinator of the Socialists group [7] >>>> >>>> *Olga Senhalova (S&D CZ) [8] >>>> >>>> *Christel Schaldemose (S&D DK) [9] >>>> >>>> *Sergio Prieto (S&D ES) [10] >>>> >>>> *Anna Hedh (S&D SE) [11] >>>> >>>> *Biljana Borzan (S&D HR) [12] >>>> >>>> *Jiri Pospisil (EPP CZ) [13] >>>> >>>> *Roza Grafin von Thum und Hohenstein (EPP PL) [14] >>>> >>>> *Ilidko Gall-Pelcz (EPP HU) [15] >>>> >>>> >>>> I will be reaching out to some of you, but if you want to join, please >>>> do so! I am happy to get in touch to give you help and pointers. >>>> >>>> === >>>> >>>> --- >>>> >>>> Copyright reform - Other Committees >>>> >>>> --- >>>> >>>> Civil Liberties Committee (LIBE): The deadline for amendments in the >>>> Civil Liberties committee is next week. It looks like the rapporteur from >>>> the EPP (Michal Boni, PL) and the shadow second largest group, the >>>> Socialists (Koster, DE) have agreed to focus only on the upload filtering >>>> article in order to give their opinion more weight. The EPP wants to >>>> significantly weaken the Commission proposal and enshrine liability >>>> protections, while the Socialists want to completely delete the entire >>>> article. >>>> >>>> --- >>>> >>>> Culture Committee (CULT): There have been some polemics about a new, >>>> unwaivable, performers’ right, which the EFF claims to have leaked. [16] >>>> The issue here is that unwaivable rights are not compatible with free >>>> licenses. We have had a meeting with the said performers’ collecting >>>> societies on this. They really do not want to hurt us or free licenses. We >>>> agreed to compromise on adding a carve-out for this case. This compromise >>>> has been brought into the Culture Committee as a compromise amendment. It >>>> will also be proposed in the lead committee - Legal Affairs. >>>> >>>> === >>>> >>>> Database Directive Consultation: After the disastrously biased “Data >>>> Driven Economy” consultation [17], the European Commission is now asking >>>> specifically for organisations’ and citizens’ opinion of the Database >>>> Directive. [18] This is a priority to us, as the “sui generis” right on >>>> database that it establishes hinders projects such a Wikidata. We will be >>>> coordinating our answers on Meta-Wiki. Deadline is 30 August. [19] >>>> >>>> === >>>> >>>> [1]http://www.communia-association.org/2017/05/31/ >>>> worst-version-eu-copyright-reform-proposal-yet-thinly- >>>> veiled-compromise/ >>>> >>>> [2]http://copybuzz.com/copyright/imco-committee-derailing/ >>>> >>>> [3]https://juliareda.eu/2017/05/alternative-compromise/ >>>> >>>> [4]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxcZ9aZ_ >>>> U4YuZ2l3NElVdTZrTTQ/view?usp=sharing >>>> >>>> [5]https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/arimont-alternative- >>>> compromise-2.pdf >>>> >>>> [6]https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/arimont-alternative- >>>> compromise-1.pdf >>>> >>>> [7]http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/124821/NICOLA_DANTI_home.html >>>> >>>> [8]http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/96718/OLGA_SEHNALOVA_home.html >>>> >>>> [9]http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/37312/CHRISTEL_ >>>> SCHALDEMOSE_home.html >>>> >>>> [10]http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/103488/ >>>> SERGIO_GUTIERREZ+PRIETO_home.html >>>> >>>> [11]http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/28131/ANNA_HEDH_home.html >>>> >>>> [12]http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/112748/ >>>> BILJANA_BORZAN_home.html >>>> >>>> [13]http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/125706/JIRI_ >>>> POSPISIL_home.html >>>> >>>> [14]http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/96776/ROZA% >>>> 20GRAFIN%20VON_THUN%20UND%20HOHENSTEIN_home.html >>>> >>>> [15]http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/102886/ >>>> ILDIKO_GALL-PELCZ_home.html >>>> >>>> [16]https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/05/secret-new- >>>> european-copyright-proposal-spells-disaster-free-culture >>>> >>>> [17]https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:European_Data_ >>>> Economy_Consultation_-_Answers.pdf >>>> >>>> [18]https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/news/ >>>> commission-launches-public-consultation-database-directive >>>> >>>> [19]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Database_ >>>> Directive_Consultation >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Referent für Politik und Recht >> Legal and Policy Advisor >> >> Wikimedia Deutschland e. 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