On 2019-02-07 09:01, L.Gelauff wrote:
You must forgive me for overlooking something perhaps obvious, but I somehow missed your steps leading us from this copyright directive to nuclear winter.


      Thanks for the question.  The key obstacle to progress on this and other issues is the control that global elites have over the media.  The "Colored revolutions" that tore down the Iron Curtain in 1989 and the Arab Spring were organized in part by cracks in elite control over the media.  That's why Wikipedia is blocked in Turkey and partially blocked in China, and I believe that's a major driver behind the efforts in the European Union to tame the internet, including Wikipedia.  Two of the "Big Three" broadcasting networks in the US were purchased by major companies in the nuclear industry in the US in 1986 and 1995.  People who think they benefit from the world's large nuclear arsenals don't want the rest of us to be able to get honest, reliable information about the threats posed by such arsenals, and the entire Wikimedia system threatens their social status, I believe.


      Make sense?
      Thanks,
      Spencer Graves


Lodewijk

On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 6:48 AM Spencer Graves <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

          Speaking from North America, I've been disappointed that I
    have NOT seen huge banners warning the international public of the
    threats this poses -- even to the future existence of
    civilization.  I'm serious about the latter:  Both former US
    Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara and Daniel Ellsberg (of
    "Pentagon Papers" fame) have said that as long as large nuclear
    arsenals exist, it is only a matter of time before some
    misunderstanding leads to a nuclear war killing at least a third
    of humanity -- primarily in the Northern Hemisphere. However,
    Ellsberg further says that such an event will almost certainly
    lead to a nuclear winter as a result of which 98% of the survivors
    will starve to death.  I've estimated over a 10% chance of such an
    event in the next 40 years.[1]


          Media organizations like Wikipedia are part of the solution
    to this and virtually every other substantive problem facing
    humanity today, in my judgment:  Progress on every substantive
    issue I can think of is blocked, because every countermeasure
    threatens someone with substantive control over the media.  People
    with power are threatened by the Wikimedia project, because it's a
    source of information they cannot control.[2]


          If you see things that people outside Europe can do, please
    let me know.  So far, I'm primarily focused on anti-nuke work and
    improving the media where I live.


          Thanks for all your hard work in support of the Wikimedia
    project.


          Spencer Graves, PhD
          member of the Boards of KKFI.org, the Friends of Community
    Media (ourfcm.org <http://ourfcm.org>) and PeaceWorksKC.org

    and
          Founder
          EffectiveDefense.org
          4550 Warwick Blvd 508
          Kansas City, MO 64111
    m:  408-655-4567


    [1] Wikiversity, "Time to extinction of civilization"
    (https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Time_to_extinction_of_civilization).


    [2] See other articles in Wikiversity, "Category:Freedom and
    abundance"
    (https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Category:Freedom_and_abundance)


    On 2019-02-07 07:04, Eva Lepik wrote:
    So, to be clear: are we all waiting for a Great Leader to step
    up, start coordinating and handing out the orders according to
    his/her master plan?
    Or shall WE start coordinating here and now, what shall WE do,
    quickly?
    This is our Internet which will be ruined.

    Regards,
    Eva


    On 07.02.2019 13:52, Jan Ainali wrote:
    I believe a coordinated effort could have good effects. The
    proposal as it is right now (there will be trilogues next week
    that may change it) is so bad that it might be possible to sway
    some MEP votes to completely block the directive.

    Best regards,
    Jan Ainali


    Den tors 7 feb. 2019 kl 12:14 skrev Sandra Rientjes - Wikimedia
    Nederland <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

        In reply to Eva's question ("Do your chapters have an action
        plan?"). No, at the moment WMNL does not have a plan yet. 
        Will there be coordinated action by Wikimedia affiliates
        like last year?


        Sandra Rientjes
        Directeur/Executive Director Wikimedia Nederland

        tel.    (+31) (0)30 3200238 (ma, di, do)
        mob. (+31) (0)6  31786379 (wo, vrij)

        www.wikimedia.nl <http://www.wikimedia.nl>


        Mariaplaats 3
        3511 LH  Utrecht


        Op wo 6 feb. 2019 om 22:56 schreef Eva Lepik <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>:

            Dear all,

            the conclusion to the copyright directive is
            approaching. The outcome
            seems to be horrible, as described for example here:
            https://twitter.com/paul_keller/status/1092912540194099200

            or here: https://juliareda.eu/2019/02/article-13-worse/

            Implementation of article 11 (link tax) and article 13
            (content
            filtering) will have a severely negative impact on the
            digital
            environment.  We don't know how much the link tax will
            affect the
            references in Wikipedia and Wikidata yet. As such, we
            cannot predict how
            much poorer the new liability regime will make our
            digital environment.
            The numerous outcries of digital rights organizations
            regarding the loss
            of freedom of speech and expression should be our
            concern, too.

            The final plenary vote will most probably take place in
            March or April,
            some weeks before the elections of the next European
            Parliament.  It
            will be the last chance to stop this disaster, after
            that we shall be
            left with damage control. Do your chapters have an
            action plan?

            Best regards

            Eva Lepik

            Wikimedia Eesti

            chairperson




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