On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 6:29 PM Lucy Crompton-Reid <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> So far, Wikimedia UK's experiences of trying to work with the BBC have
> been...mixed. I'm sure it would be worth going back to them at some point
> but it makes sense to try and align our arguments and draw on examples.
>
> On the other hand, our programme manager in Wales has had much greater
> success. At his request, the Welsh Government has changed their YouTube
> account licences on over 1,500 videos, of which over 150 have now been
> uploaded to Commons. The Welsh Parliament (Senedd) is now considering
> making this change on their YouTube account.
>
> Wikimedia UK also has a partnership with the Welsh language free-to-air
> television channel S4C. They have been placing their press releases on the
> Welsh Wikipedia on CC-BY-SA for over a year now, so that the text can be
> copied and pasted to Wikipedia articles. There are additional aspects
> of this partnership currently in the works (but not yet agreed) that could
> lead to further openly-licensed content on Commons.
>
> I have contacts within Creative Commons and Open Knowledge Foundation, but
> I suspect many people do.
>

So maybe it would be good to think: Where to coordinate best?

A page on Meta could compile and record progress for Wikimedians
but what about the rest of the 'big open'?

Best Z. Blace

Best wishes
> Lucy
>
>
> On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 at 10:05, <[email protected]>
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>> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2021 11:02:35 +0100
>> From: Željko Blaće <[email protected]>
>> To: Publicpolicy Group for Wikimedia
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>> Hm...
>> In all honesty - I am surprised that these 3 organizations still do not
>> have explicit and continuous relations and shared point of contact. Maybe
>> it is an issue of professionalization of work (not fitting anyone's job
>> description) or something else, but I think it should be worked on now
>> (and
>> maybe over this issue). My contacts are now just a few old friends (bottom
>> up) for now so I advise also for you just approaching German
>> representatives?
>>
>> Best Z. Blace
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 10:53 AM Bernd Fiedler <
>> [email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > reached out to <[email protected]> already, but she'll be
>> leaving
>> > CC *looks at watch* *looks at sky* *shakes watch* ... in about two
>> days. So
>> > I'll just be putting it out there. Very sensible Idea! Any suggestions
>> and
>> > people / lists to talk to are welcome!
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > Bernd
>> >
>> > Am Mo., 15. März 2021 um 10:41 Uhr schrieb Željko Blaće <[email protected]
>> >:
>> >
>> >> Thank you for starting this discussion.
>> >> This NL paper is great as well as examples above
>> >> and I would use it once in position to advocate in Croatia.
>> >>
>> >> Maybe this particular incentive is something to coordinate with both
>> >> CreativeCommons and Open Knowledge Foundation?
>> >> Are representatives or members of those organizations in the list?
>> >>
>> >> Best Z. Blace
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 3/14/21, Sandra Rientjes  - Wikimedia Nederland
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > Hallo Bernd,
>> >> >
>> >> > Our partner the Institute for Sound and Vision (Instituut voor Beeld
>> en
>> >> > Geluid) wrote this paper on their experiences with sharing content
>> from
>> >> > public broadcasting.
>> >> >
>> >> > https://publications.beeldengeluid.nl/pub/600
>> >> >
>> >> > Best,
>> >> >
>> >> > Sandra Rientjes
>> >> > Directeur/Executive Director Wikimedia Nederland
>> >> >
>> >> > Op vr 12 mrt. 2021 17:32 schreef Bernd Fiedler
>> >> > <[email protected]>:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hello to all of you!
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> *tl;dr: I'm searching for suggestions / partners in approaching
>> public
>> >> >> broadcasters. They could provide free content. Let's tell them all
>> >> about
>> >> >> it!*
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> As you know, the international language communities in the Wikimedia
>> >> >> Projects have adapted and built upon the content provided by the ZDF
>> >> >> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Videos_by_Terra_X>
>> >> (biggest
>> >> >> Public Service Broadcaster in Germany). There are dubbed versions
>> >> >> available
>> >> >> in English, Dutch, Welsh and Esperanto. There are subtitles
>> available
>> >> in
>> >> >> numerous other languages.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Read more (3 min read) in this Wikimedia Foundations Blogpost
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> https://wikimediapolicy.medium.com/broadcast-by-the-public-for-the-public-a68b1ed0ada7
>> >> >> or find more detailed "lessons learned" here (30 minutes talk + Q&A
>> >> @rc3
>> >> >> )
>> >> >> https://media.ccc.de/v/rc3-2020-140-public-service-public-value
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The international public broadcasters can benefit from the
>> experiences
>> >> >> we've made here. They should now follow the leadership of various
>> >> >> cultural institutions like the Dutch Rijksmuseum
>> >> >> <
>> >>
>> https://pro.europeana.eu/files/Europeana_Professional/Publications/Democratising%20the%20Rijksmuseum.pdf
>> >> >
>> >> >> who make their content more visible and beneficial to artists and
>> >> >> educators
>> >> >> worldwide and licence it freely. In a time of crisis, we can learn
>> >> >> together.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So... I know of some Institutions who already tried out stuff with
>> >> >> Creativecommons. But I don't want to approach international
>> >> broadcasters
>> >> >> w/o consulting with you first. Maybe there's already some
>> cooperation
>> >> on
>> >> >> other projects going on that I should know about or you know exactly
>> >> the
>> >> >> people to talk to.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If not, I'll just be sending mails and calls all over the place and
>> >> hope
>> >> >> to wake up the right people. But everything is more fun if we do it
>> >> >> together ;)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sincerely yours,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Bernd
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Bernd Fiedler
>> >> >> Projektmanager Politik
>> >> >> Project Manager Public Policy
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
>> >> >> Mobil 0151 25 31 17 09
>> >> >> Büro (030) 219 158 26-0
>> >> >> https://wikimedia.de
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der
>> >> >> Menschheit
>> >> >> teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei!
>> >> >> https://spenden.wikimedia.de
>> >> >> Hier finden Sie unseren neuen Newsletter
>> >> >> <https://www.wikimedia.de/newsletter/>!
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens
>> e. V.
>> >> >> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts
>> Berlin-Charlottenburg
>> >> >> unter
>> >> >> der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt
>> für
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>> > Bernd Fiedler
>> > Projektmanager Politik
>> > project manager public policy
>> >
>> > Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
>> > Mobil 0151 25 31 17 09
>> > Büro (030) 219 158 26-0
>> > https://wikimedia.de
>> >
>> > Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der
>> Menschheit
>> > teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei!
>> > https://spenden.wikimedia.de
>> > Hier finden Sie unseren neuen Newsletter
>> > <https://www.wikimedia.de/newsletter/>!
>> >
>> > Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
>> > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
>> unter
>> > der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für
>> > Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
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>> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2021 11:04:39 +0100
>> From: Bernd Fiedler <[email protected]>
>> To: Publicpolicy Group for Wikimedia
>>         <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Publicpolicy] Public Service Broadcasters and Open
>>         Content / Leads
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>> I am part of the German CC chapter and will do just that. You're right,
>> I'll reach out to my colleagues
>>
>> Am Mo., 15. März 2021 um 11:03 Uhr schrieb Željko Blaće <[email protected]>:
>>
>> > Hm...
>> > In all honesty - I am surprised that these 3 organizations still do not
>> > have explicit and continuous relations and shared point of contact.
>> Maybe
>> > it is an issue of professionalization of work (not fitting anyone's job
>> > description) or something else, but I think it should be worked on now
>> (and
>> > maybe over this issue). My contacts are now just a few old friends
>> (bottom
>> > up) for now so I advise also for you just approaching German
>> > representatives?
>> >
>> > Best Z. Blace
>> >
>> > On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 10:53 AM Bernd Fiedler <
>> [email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> reached out to <[email protected]> already, but she'll be
>> >> leaving CC *looks at watch* *looks at sky* *shakes watch* ... in about
>> two
>> >> days. So I'll just be putting it out there. Very sensible Idea! Any
>> >> suggestions and people / lists to talk to are welcome!
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >> Bernd
>> >>
>> >> Am Mo., 15. März 2021 um 10:41 Uhr schrieb Željko Blaće <[email protected]
>> >:
>> >>
>> >>> Thank you for starting this discussion.
>> >>> This NL paper is great as well as examples above
>> >>> and I would use it once in position to advocate in Croatia.
>> >>>
>> >>> Maybe this particular incentive is something to coordinate with both
>> >>> CreativeCommons and Open Knowledge Foundation?
>> >>> Are representatives or members of those organizations in the list?
>> >>>
>> >>> Best Z. Blace
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 3/14/21, Sandra Rientjes  - Wikimedia Nederland
>> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> > Hallo Bernd,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Our partner the Institute for Sound and Vision (Instituut voor
>> Beeld en
>> >>> > Geluid) wrote this paper on their experiences with sharing content
>> from
>> >>> > public broadcasting.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > https://publications.beeldengeluid.nl/pub/600
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Best,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Sandra Rientjes
>> >>> > Directeur/Executive Director Wikimedia Nederland
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Op vr 12 mrt. 2021 17:32 schreef Bernd Fiedler
>> >>> > <[email protected]>:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> Hello to all of you!
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> *tl;dr: I'm searching for suggestions / partners in approaching
>> public
>> >>> >> broadcasters. They could provide free content. Let's tell them all
>> >>> about
>> >>> >> it!*
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> As you know, the international language communities in the
>> Wikimedia
>> >>> >> Projects have adapted and built upon the content provided by the
>> ZDF
>> >>> >> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Videos_by_Terra_X>
>> >>> (biggest
>> >>> >> Public Service Broadcaster in Germany). There are dubbed versions
>> >>> >> available
>> >>> >> in English, Dutch, Welsh and Esperanto. There are subtitles
>> available
>> >>> in
>> >>> >> numerous other languages.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Read more (3 min read) in this Wikimedia Foundations Blogpost
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>>
>> https://wikimediapolicy.medium.com/broadcast-by-the-public-for-the-public-a68b1ed0ada7
>> >>> >> or find more detailed "lessons learned" here (30 minutes talk + Q&A
>> >>> @rc3
>> >>> >> )
>> >>> >> https://media.ccc.de/v/rc3-2020-140-public-service-public-value
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> The international public broadcasters can benefit from the
>> experiences
>> >>> >> we've made here. They should now follow the leadership of various
>> >>> >> cultural institutions like the Dutch Rijksmuseum
>> >>> >> <
>> >>>
>> https://pro.europeana.eu/files/Europeana_Professional/Publications/Democratising%20the%20Rijksmuseum.pdf
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> who make their content more visible and beneficial to artists and
>> >>> >> educators
>> >>> >> worldwide and licence it freely. In a time of crisis, we can learn
>> >>> >> together.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> So... I know of some Institutions who already tried out stuff with
>> >>> >> Creativecommons. But I don't want to approach international
>> >>> broadcasters
>> >>> >> w/o consulting with you first. Maybe there's already some
>> cooperation
>> >>> on
>> >>> >> other projects going on that I should know about or you know
>> exactly
>> >>> the
>> >>> >> people to talk to.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> If not, I'll just be sending mails and calls all over the place and
>> >>> hope
>> >>> >> to wake up the right people. But everything is more fun if we do it
>> >>> >> together ;)
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Sincerely yours,
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Bernd
>> >>> >> --
>> >>> >> Bernd Fiedler
>> >>> >> Projektmanager Politik
>> >>> >> Project Manager Public Policy
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
>> >>> >> Mobil 0151 25 31 17 09
>> >>> >> Büro (030) 219 158 26-0
>> >>> >> https://wikimedia.de
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der
>> >>> >> Menschheit
>> >>> >> teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei!
>> >>> >> https://spenden.wikimedia.de
>> >>> >> Hier finden Sie unseren neuen Newsletter
>> >>> >> <https://www.wikimedia.de/newsletter/>!
>> >>>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens
>> e.
>> >>> V.
>> >>> >> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts
>> Berlin-Charlottenburg
>> >>> >> unter
>> >>> >> der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt
>> für
>> >>> >> Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
>> >>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >>> >> Publicpolicy mailing list
>> >>> >> [email protected]
>> >>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> Publicpolicy mailing list
>> >>> [email protected]
>> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Bernd Fiedler
>> >> Projektmanager Politik
>> >> project manager public policy
>> >>
>> >> Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
>> >> Mobil 0151 25 31 17 09
>> >> Büro (030) 219 158 26-0
>> >> https://wikimedia.de
>> >>
>> >> Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der
>> >> Menschheit teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns
>> dabei!
>> >> https://spenden.wikimedia.de
>> >> Hier finden Sie unseren neuen Newsletter
>> >> <https://www.wikimedia.de/newsletter/>!
>> >>
>> >> Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
>> >> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
>> unter
>> >> der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für
>> >> Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Publicpolicy mailing list
>> >> [email protected]
>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy
>> >>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Bernd Fiedler
>> Projektmanager Politik
>> project manager public policy
>>
>> Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
>> Mobil 0151 25 31 17 09
>> Büro (030) 219 158 26-0
>> https://wikimedia.de
>>
>> Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der Menschheit
>> teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei!
>> https://spenden.wikimedia.de
>> Hier finden Sie unseren neuen Newsletter
>> <https://www.wikimedia.de/newsletter/>!
>>
>> Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
>> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
>> unter
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