re: is it legal for European PBS to to CC? Answer: In general, yes.

We have had an assessment made by two german copyright university
professors. It's in german, but it's on Commons:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gutachten_Beihilferechtliche_Rahmenbedingungen_der_Einr%C3%A4umung_von_CC-Lizenzen.pdf

you can find a (german) summary here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Handreichung_Gutachten_Beihilfe.pdf

english translation, powerded by deepl: (the "3 Step test" is a very
german-broadcaster-thing. It just means that they have to ask for
permission with their oversight board, which is quite complicated.)

Media content that is released to the general public by means of open
> content licenses is also crucial for the sharing of knowledge. For public
> actors as licensors of such content, however, the question arises here as
> to whether the publication of content under free licenses can be a relevant
> process under competition law.
> As a follow-up to the first roundtable on "Releases of Public Broadcasting
> Content for Knowledge Projects" on July 04, 2018, we commissioned an expert
> opinion on this question from Prof. Dr. Roland Broemel and Prof. Dr.
> Hans-Heinrich Trute.
> Prof. Dr. Roland Broemel, Maîtrise en Droit has been Professor of Public
> Law, Economic and Monetary Law, Financial Market Regulation and Legal
> Theory at Goethe University Frankfurt since July 2018. Prof. Dr.
> Hans-Heinrich Trute has been Professor of Public Law, Media and
> Telecommunications Law at the University of Hamburg since October 2001.
> The expert opinion question was: "Does the release of public broadcasters'
> content to the general public, specifically under an everyman license such
> as CC BY, which also allows commercial uses, constitute an impermissible
> subsidy?"
> The key findings are:
> In principle, the granting of a CC BY license does not favor any
> particular company or industry.
> In individual cases, a so-called de facto selectivity may exist. An
> indication against this would be the separation of the production decision
> from the CC licensing decision.
> De facto selectivity would be permissible in the context of a cooperation.
> This regularly requires, among other things, a telemedia concept tested in
> the so-called 3-step test.
>
> In detail:
> The granting of rights within the framework of CC BY takes place free of
> charge, while the uses of protected content according to market conditions
> suggest a paid license, at least in a commercial context. The CC BY can
> thus be understood as an advantage relevant under state aid law. However,
> since the licensing is not for the benefit of a specific company but in
> general, the granting of a CC BY license does not favor a specific company
> or a specific sector of the economy. In the absence of selectivity, it is
> therefore in any case generally permissible to make content available to
> the general public for use under a CC BY license.
> However, the selectivity of a benefit can arise from the circumstances of
> the individual case despite the formally general nature of the benefit
> (so-called de facto selectivity). Thus, a targeted production of the
> subsequently licensed content with a view to the needs of Wikimedia in the
> context of a cooperation will have to be rated as de facto selective aid.
> As a result, it can be stated that releases by public broadcasters under a
> CC BY license are in principle permissible under state aid law if they lack
> selectivity. At the same time, the granting of non-selective licenses to
> the general public is compatible with the regulatory objective of the
> so-called state aid compromise, which led to changes in the Interstate
> Broadcasting Treaty regarding the regulations on telemedia of public
> broadcasters. However, they violate the prohibition of state aid if they
> have a predictably distorting effect due to de facto selectivity. A
> permanent publication of content under a CC BY license may also violate
> some broadcasting law provisions currently still in force, in particular
> the requirements for so-called telemedia concepts and the time limit still
> applicable to publication. Thus, the use of CC licenses in a field in which
> corresponding content has previously only been offered under market
> licensing conditions can have significant effects, and this should be taken
> into account accordingly in the 3-step test.
> Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)


Am Do., 18. März 2021 um 16:04 Uhr schrieb <[email protected]>:

>
>
> Op 13 mrt. 2021, om 22:56 heeft Ciell Wikipedia <[email protected]>
> het volgende geschreven:
>
> Hi Bernd,
>
> We have several years of broadcasts of DWDD, of populair daily show on
> Dutch national tv (public service) available on Commons - and a lot of
> derived stills from all the guests. Until at one point, they stopped using
> the free license on YT, so maybe this was per mistake?
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:De_Wereld_Draait_Door
>
>
> Yes, I had contact with them and it was by accident, but their legal team
> was not unwilling. However, the Dutch public broadcasting organisation NPO
> doesn’t allow publications under Creative Commons. Reason is that it is
> produced with public money and therefore the public broadcasting
> organisations viewpoint is that it is unethical to give it away for free...
>
> Another reason is that they need permission for each work by the Dutch
> government to publish it under a free license as it can be seen as a
> ‘commercial activity’ (distribution of content that might economical
> disturb other video content providers). Public broadcasters in the
> Netherlands are not allowed to have commercial activities unless they have
> a permission for such exception case by case by the national government.
>
> Universiteit van Nederland (on YT and now also on Spotify), seems like the
> same story: new content is only available for NC-restrictions.
>
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Videos_from_the_Universiteit_van_Nederland
>
> they switched from cc-by to youtube license as they said a third party was
> misusing their content.
>
>
> The Dutch institute for Sound and Vision
> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Open_Beelden> donated a lot
> of old news broadcasts in 2014 already:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Polygoonjournaal
>
> They only donated the public domain ones.
>
>
> Hannolans (in cc:) is a frequent importer of Dutch language videos from YT
> to Commons: maybe he knows about present day projects.
>
>
> We have Drugslab, published by BNNVARA on youtube that is published under
> CC-BY
>
>
> Vriendelijke groet,
> Ciell
>
>
> Op vr 12 mrt. 2021 om 17:31 schreef Bernd Fiedler <
> [email protected]>:
>
>> Hello to all of you!
>>
>> *tl;dr: I'm searching for suggestions / partners in approaching public
>> broadcasters. They could provide free content. Let's tell them all about
>> it!*
>>
>> As you know, the international language communities in the Wikimedia
>> Projects have adapted and built upon the content provided by the ZDF
>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Videos_by_Terra_X> (biggest
>> Public Service Broadcaster in Germany). There are dubbed versions available
>> in English, Dutch, Welsh and Esperanto. There are subtitles available in
>> numerous other languages.
>>
>> Read more (3 min read) in this Wikimedia Foundations Blogpost
>>
>> https://wikimediapolicy.medium.com/broadcast-by-the-public-for-the-public-a68b1ed0ada7
>> or find more detailed "lessons learned" here (30 minutes talk + Q&A @rc3
>> )
>> https://media.ccc.de/v/rc3-2020-140-public-service-public-value
>>
>>
>> The international public broadcasters can benefit from the experiences
>> we've made here. They should now follow the leadership of various
>> cultural institutions like the Dutch Rijksmuseum
>> <https://pro.europeana.eu/files/Europeana_Professional/Publications/Democratising%20the%20Rijksmuseum.pdf>
>> who make their content more visible and beneficial to artists and educators
>> worldwide and licence it freely. In a time of crisis, we can learn together.
>>
>> So... I know of some Institutions who already tried out stuff with
>> Creativecommons. But I don't want to approach international broadcasters
>> w/o consulting with you first. Maybe there's already some cooperation on
>> other projects going on that I should know about or you know exactly the
>> people to talk to.
>>
>> If not, I'll just be sending mails and calls all over the place and hope
>> to wake up the right people. But everything is more fun if we do it
>> together ;)
>>
>> Sincerely yours,
>> Bernd
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