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On 9/16/09 12:33 AM, Ralph Meijer wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 10:45 -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
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>> On 9/15/09 5:03 AM, Dave Cridland wrote:
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>>>> From: Christophe Romain <[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: 15/9/'09,  11:41
>>>>
>>>> XEP-0060 says collection nodes are defined in XEP-0248
>>>> see http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html#glossary
>>>> but XEP-0248 status is Deferred
>>>> will the collection node definition get back to XEP-0060 ?
>>>
>>> No, it's just that the spec hasn't been touched in a while. See XEP-0001
>>> for details.
>> Right. I am going to work on XEP-0060 and then turn to XEP-0248 etc.
>>
>> Keep those cards and letters coming!
> 
> For completeness, this specification (XEP-0248) needs a good look and
> that's why the authors haven't moved to push (haha) it further through
> the process. Concerns include:
> 
>  * Usefulness of notification depth choices
>  * Implementability
>  * Access control
>  * Unclarity about what subscription caused a notification (when
> subscribing to multiple collections that aggregate an overlapping set of
> nodes and/or when SubIDs are involved).
>  * The lack of support for off-service node aggregation (but see
> XEP-0253 PubSub Chaining)
>  * Whether they are practically useful to have.

Good summary. That's quite a list.

> For the latter point I bring the following hypotheses to the table:
> 
>   Every time somebody wants to start using pubsub collections (as it is
> currently defined), they really want to implement nodes-as-code.

Has anyone ever written up the node-as-code concept? I think that would
be quite helpful.

> For me, it appears that static configuration of collections is painful,
> and services that want to provide nodes that aggregate other nodes have
> implicit rules for determining where stuff should go. So in spirit that
> would be kinda the same as collections, but without the additional
> protocol and DAG theory.

Exactly. Simpler is better, if we can make it work. We must remember
that not everything needs to be defined in protocol...

Peter

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