Paddy,

 I guess, I can build a basic aggregator which finishes the first 3 steps. I
guess drupal's aggregator covers the first three steps and I always love to
work with drupal.

Firstly, I need to build an aggregator which deals with non-PuSH enabled
feeds. I wanted to build this aggregator for bloggers from a specific region
in India, and I'm 100% sure that no one of them is PuSH as they are not much
aware about technical stuff. So, I can think of PuSH enabled feeds in the
second version of my aggregator.

I agree with Matthew that Wordpress doesn't have a client-like plugin. All
plugins made for Wordpress are just usable by the publishers and I cannot
ask my users to install those to their blogs as many of them are using
blogger. And, if I ask 'em to install to their blogs, why would they need
me? I need to build a successful aggregator for 'em.

Anyways, I'll look through your work and try to understand it. I'll get back
as soon as I try it.

Vimal


On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Matthew Terenzio <[email protected]>wrote:

> Pádraic, That's neat. I hadn't seen the ZFPlanet thing before.
>
> Regarding the Wordpress plugin. If you refer to Joseph Scott's plugin I
> believe it acts as a publisher or a hub. I haven't seen anything that acts
> like a client in Wordpress yet, which would probably be what you need to
> make an aggregator.
>
> I'm working on that now in case someone knows of something I missed. I hate
> to waste/duplicate effort. ; )
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Pádraic Brady <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hi Vimal,
>>
>> The question depends on a lot of factors, so I'll stick to broad design
>> approaches and offer an example in PHP you can examine in detail.
>>
>> The main thing is that any current aggregator has to deal with both PuSH
>> enabled and non-PuSH enabled feeds. So you're really building two distinct
>> systems. Obviously building in twice the complexity isn't a great idea so a
>> good approach is to keep the following separate:
>>
>> 1. Polling of feeds.
>> 2. Processing of feeds.
>> 3. Handling of processed entries.
>>
>> This is the core of any aggregator but the separations are important once
>> you bring in PuSH. Adding PuSH includes adding:
>>
>> 4. PuSH processing (callbacks, subscriptions, unsubscriptions)
>>
>> But with the first three, you can reuse 2 and 3 for all incoming PuSH
>> notifications. It's a common aggregator mistake to merge the polling
>> (fetching) with the processing making them hard to separate and reuse for
>> PuSH.
>>
>> Onto the example, I created a demo application for PuSH (a simple
>> aggregator) for the Zend Framework (PHP). In the application, all processing
>> is performed within a Model (this takes over from the moment a feed is
>> either polled or received via PuSH notification callbacks). You can find the
>> source code at:
>>
>> http://github.com/padraic/ZFPlanet
>>
>> Please feel free to ask any questions on how it operates on or off list.
>> It gives a broad example of the database schema, the use of
>> Zend_Feed_Pubsubhubbub (if your question is related to PuSH implementation
>> itself you can look there also - http://framework.zend.com), and some
>> simple scripts for use with cron to schedule polling. You should also note
>> that Wordpress and Drupal both have PuSH plugins/modules you may want to
>> research depending on how/if your aggregator is being built on either of
>> these platforms.
>>
>> Paddy
>>
>> Pádraic Brady
>>
>> http://blog.astrumfutura.com
>> http://www.survivethedeepend.com
>> OpenID Europe Foundation Irish Representative<http://www.openideurope.eu/>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* vimal <[email protected]>
>> *To:* Pubsubhubbub <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Fri, April 16, 2010 7:17:59 PM
>> *Subject:* [pubsubhubbub] Aggregator with Pubsubhubbub?
>>
>> Hey guys, I was wondering how to make an aggreagtor with PuSH. I
>> couldn't figure out how to start with it. I just developed websites
>> with drupal and wordpress before. Can you please explain me the basics
>> to start with an aggregator with PuSH? Please?
>>
>>
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