Hi Guys
So I am updating the proposed v0.4 spec with the latest discussions
and was wondering if you had any suggestions on what is the proper
term for the self-describing list resources like Atom, RSS or JSON
Activity Sreams/Feeds.

An  XXX document would contain a list of items with unique identifiers
and timestamps.

Ideas ?

On Jun 7, 9:32 am, Brett Slatkin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Martin Atkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I think we need an unambiguous way to determine whether a particular hub for
> > a particular resource is for whole-document update notifications or whether
> > it's capable of format-specific delta notifications. That way subscribers
> > will know what to expect before the subscribe and find that they aren't
> > getting the kind of notification they wanted.
>
> > Here's a strawman:
>
> > If the hub is published in a Link: header, then the hub handles
> > whole-document updates agnostic to the type of the body.
>
> > Otherwise, the hub is declared inside the entity body in a format-specific
> > way. In this case, the resource format and the notification format are
> > defined by whatever specification defined how to find the hub URL.
>
> > This is consistent with the capabilities we'd expect consumers of this
> > information to have anyway; you can't parse the atom:link in Atom/RSS or the
> > "hubs" property in my JSON proposal without having support for those
> > specific payload formats, but that's okay because you wouldn't have been
> > able to parse the update notifications anyway.
>
> Generally I agree with this approach. The needs of a self-describing
> document/payload are different than those of a document/payload that
> requires the headers for correct interpretation. The same applies to
> HTML and hAtom, where the hub link would be in the html <head> and the
> headers are mostly irrelevant. This also has an effect on security,
> where the generic HTTP version must preserve the fidelity of the
> payload's headers, whereas the self-describing document can drop them.

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