Waleed,

I am not sure why you have issues, but I think it's wrong to say
pubsubhubbub is unreliable. there may be issues, but they are only due to
implementation issues... not to the protocol. It is hard to debug, but it
can be done, and I believe this community has been helpful and have been
able to fix issues often times.

Pankaj, I have offered help many times...

Julien

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Waleed Abdulla <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't know if you're having trouble with all the feeds you're working
> with, or with a small subset! But here is my own personal experience with
> PSHB in case it helps:
>
> I subscribe to a lot of feeds and I've learned that, in general,
> PubSubHubbub is not a reliable system. It's a distributed system that
> involves the publisher, hub, and subscriber communicating over the Internet,
> which means that any bug or issue at any point in the chain will cause a
> notification to be lost. Often the issue is when a publisher doesn't send a
> notification to the hub, and sometimes the hub is to blame, and so on.
>
> The way I handle it is that I have a slow polling process that fetches
> feeds once a day. If my polling process fetches a post that's not in my
> database, then I know something is wrong because that post should have been
> received already through a PSHB notification. So I mark that hub is
> "potentially broken", and put that feed on a faster polling process for a
> month (in the hope that the hub gets fixed in that time), and then repeat
> the process.
>
> Waleed
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 2:49 AM, Pankaj Jain <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Julien,
>> When you say "this feed uses the pheedo hub" you're referring to the
>> nytimes feed, right? That still wouldn't explain the Google Reader feed
>> problem. I can also give you 10-15 other feeds that I'm not receiving any
>> notifications from the appspot hub.
>>
>> I'm going to make a few changes to test with some other hubs but no code
>> has changed on my side, I just stopped receiving notifications unless I
>> manually go and publish the feed(s).
>>
>>  Thanks!
>> Pankaj
>>
>> On Sep 12, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Julien Genestoux wrote:
>>
>> Pankaj,
>> this feed uses the pheedo hub. You want to see with pheedo if they have
>> anything wrong with their hub... or again, if you're not doing a mistake
>> yourself, by testing your code with another feed on another hub.
>> Julien
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Pankaj Jain <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, I'm not entirely nuts. The problem is persisting not just for my app
>>> but also within friendfeed. Take for example, this Google Reader topic:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.google.com/reader/public/atom/user/18179744707000356486/state/com.google/broadcast
>>>
>>> I share items from Google Reader and no notifications hit my FriendFeed
>>> account or my app. However, when I go and publish the feed manually, both
>>> FriendFeed and my app receive notifications.
>>>
>>> The reason I think it's more than Google Reader is because I'm not
>>> receiving notifications for other topics either, e.g.
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/services/xml/rss/nyt/start-ups.xml
>>>
>>> Any suggestions would be welcome.
>>> Thanks!
>>> Pankaj
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>

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