Sorry, I should've send an update earlier.

I still see in the logs that the hub received an old version of the feed
when it fetched it immediately after the ping. I'm building a
self-contained test to localize the issue.

Meanwhile, can you try removing the "Cache-Control: public, max-age=1800"
header when serving http://stage.cityam.com/feed/liveblog/rss.xml?

Roman.

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 10:15 AM, WarrenG <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi Roman,
>
> Did you have any luck?
>
> Many thanks
> Warren
>
>
> On Tuesday, 27 August 2013 14:56:06 UTC+1, WarrenG wrote:
>>
>> Hi Roman,
>>
>> Just published another post but it's still not being picked up... sorry
>>
>> Warren
>>
>> On Tuesday, 27 August 2013 14:26:58 UTC+1, Roman Perepelitsa wrote:
>>>
>>> Extensive logging is paying off!
>>>
>>> I think I have fixed the problem by disabling the cache that I didn't
>>> know existed. Could you try publishing again?
>>>
>>> Roman.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:39 PM, WarrenG <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Roman,
>>>>
>>>> I've added the closing channel tag but the content is still not
>>>> updating with the latest post. I've just published another post and cannot
>>>> see it in the content received, nor in feedly...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 27 August 2013 11:30:29 UTC+1, Roman Perepelitsa wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's what I see in the logs: Parse Error [mismatched tag].
>>>>>
>>>>> The feed ends with "</item></rss>" while it should
>>>>> be "</item></channel></rss>". The hub currently drops feeds that can't be
>>>>> parsed. I opened a bug to report parse errors in the diagnostics page.
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH,
>>>>> Roman.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 12:07 PM, WarrenG <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Roman I've added another post and pinged the hub again... could
>>>>>> you take another look?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, 22 August 2013 16:32:31 UTC+1, Roman Perepelitsa wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [bcc:pubs...@**googlegroups.com]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe the hub didn't receive a ping after you added
>>>>>>> blog-post-28. I just pinged it and "unfortunately" blog-post-28 got 
>>>>>>> handled
>>>>>>> correctly by the hub. Could you add another post and ping afterwards?
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Roman.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:29 PM, WarrenG 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Roman,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have published another couple of blog posts and still see no
>>>>>>>> update. Please let me know if you would like me to do anything else / 
>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>> findings you see...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, 22 August 2013 14:52:48 UTC+1, Roman Perepelitsa wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  The push has *just* finished and the extra logging I added
>>>>>>>>> appears to be working. Please go ahead, add a post, verify that it's
>>>>>>>>> included in the feed when you download it and then publish the feed. 
>>>>>>>>> I hope
>>>>>>>>> to have enough info then to figure out where the hub is dropping the 
>>>>>>>>> ball.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Roman.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:50 PM, WarrenG <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Roman,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any luck today?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 21 August 2013 15:52:10 UTC+1, Roman Perepelitsa
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Warren,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I wasn't able to push my changes in logging to production due to
>>>>>>>>>>> an ongoing release that I can't clash with. If I'm not asking for 
>>>>>>>>>>> too much,
>>>>>>>>>>> would you be still available tomorrow?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Roman.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 4:38 PM, WarrenG <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Roman,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know how you got on and if you need me to add another
>>>>>>>>>>>> blog post.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Warren
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 20 August 2013 15:27:15 UTC+1, Roman Perepelitsa
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Aha, this is indeed weird. Kudos for being persistent,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warren!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm adding more logging to the hub to pinpoint the problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll get back to you tomorrow and ask to publish another post. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Appreciate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your help!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roman.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:29 PM, WarrenG <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Roman,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have just updated the http://stage.cityam.com/feed/**l*****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *****iveblog/rss.xml<http://stage.cityam.com/feed/liveblog/rss.xml>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  another post (Blog Post 27) which I can see in the feed. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not updated in the last item still.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The xml feed is passed from Varnish and drupal so there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cache on it from what I can tell in the headers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 20 August 2013 14:04:20 UTC+1, Roman Perepelitsa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's what happens.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. At some point blog-post-24 was the last post in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://stage.cityam.com/**fee************d/liveblog/rss.xml<http://stage.cityam.com/feed/liveblog/rss.xml>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. blog-post-26 was added to http://stage.cityam.com/**fee**
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **********d/liveblog/rss.xml<http://stage.cityam.com/feed/liveblog/rss.xml>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. http://stage.cityam.com/**fee************
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d/liveblog/rss.xml<http://stage.cityam.com/feed/liveblog/rss.xml>got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  pinged in the hub.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. The hub fetched http://stage.cityam.**co************
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> m/feed/liveblog/rss.xml<http://stage.cityam.com/feed/liveblog/rss.xml>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. The hub got the previous content without blog-post-26!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I pinged this feed right now and the hub now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows blog-post-26 as the last retreived item.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These problems often happen due to caches or distributed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serving systems. Is it possible that stage.cityam.com may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serve stale feed content after sending a ping to the hub?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roman.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:47 PM, WarrenG <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Roman,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please find a link to the topic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pubsubhubbub.appspot.**c************
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> om/topic-details?hub.url=**http:************
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //stage.cityam.com/feed/**livebl************og/rss.xml<https://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/topic-details?hub.url=http://stage.cityam.com/feed/liveblog/rss.xml>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 20 August 2013 12:25:26 UTC+1, Roman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perepelitsa wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Could you provide a link to the specific topic (or two)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiencing this problem? I'll take a look what's happening 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roman.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:22 PM, WarrenG <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Roman,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your reply.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not think this is limited to a reporting problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I also cannot see the updated items appearing in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feed readers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (feedly and http://theoldreader.com/ - which both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support pubsubhub).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warren
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 20 August 2013 10:01:34 UTC+1, Roman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perepelitsa wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a reporting problem. The "Last successful fetch"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and "Last ping" are updated in real time but the "Last item 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retrieved" may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be updated with a delay. If you give it a few minutes, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you'll see the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expected item.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To summarize, the fetching and distribution works
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly but the diagnostics data is lagging behind. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opened a bug to fix
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roman.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 7:19 PM, WarrenG <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am a publisher and have an RSS feed that is on a test
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. We use the https://pubsubhubbub.appspot.**c******
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **********om <https://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com> as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> publisher hub.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This gets pinged when a person updates a post.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I use the https://pubsubhubbub.appspot.**c********
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ********om/publisher<https://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/publisher>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  debug I can see that the Last successful fetch and the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last Ping are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from when we updated a post. So far so good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However the Last item retrieved is from 30mins before.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have even tried replacing the feed entirely with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> completely different feed with different content from the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original. In this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case the Last item retrieved still remains the same as it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was 30 mins ago
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even if I update another post.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It looks like the feed was not fetched at all after the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last ping.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have added the following to the feeds... and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ping looks to be set up correctly so I cannot see what is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <!-- PubSubHubbub Discovery -->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <link rel="hub"  href="http://pubsubhubbub.**apps**
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **************pot.com <http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com>"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/******************Atom<http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom>"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <link rel="self" href="http://www.website/rss.**x**
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **************ml <http://www.website/rss.xml>" xmlns="
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/******************Atom<http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom>"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <!-- End Of PubSubHubbub Discovery -->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any help would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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