I spent a bit more time hacking around with pudge last night. I also installed buildutils and used it via that. This is *interesting* ! I've split my experiences into emails.

This first one is mainly for the sake of google.....

First I had the same problems with installing buildutils as `Rocco Pellegrini <http://lesscode.org/pipermail/pudge/2005-October/000018.html>`_. Unfortunately having no internet connection at home I had to work out for myself what was really meant when ``setup.py pudge`` raised the error ``Missing dependency: pudge``. :-)

This is really a failing with setuptools of course - which seems to fail to recognise a dependency that isn't installed as an egg. (I eventually solved it by deleting the requirements in the buildutils egg - both kid and docutils were already installed).

setuptools uses python to download dependencies. To the best of my knowledge, Python doesn't support certain kinds of proxies (https fetched through any kind of proxy and no support for SOCKS proxies). This means that as setuptools becomes ubiquitous (which on balance is a good thing of course) - and programmers become less aware of the dependencies for their code - certain types of users (behind company firewalls for example) will struggle. *sigh*

All the best,

Fuzzyman
http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/index.shtml

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