and now with the new correct puppet-dev address...
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Nigel Kersten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (sending to users and -dev to try and catch the Mac users)
>
> So I've been playing around with a launchd service type, and
> conceptually it doesn't map cleanly to Puppet in all cases.
>
> launchd differs from a lot of service frameworks in that it can also
> keep jobs alive when the process exits, which leads to some of the
> problems below.
>
> Jobs can be set to have various flags that are reasonably
> self-explanatoryg that can cause problems here.
>
> KeepAlive - whether it keeps the job alive.
> RunAtLoad - whether the job runs when loaded
> Disabled - whether the job is loaded at boot.
>
>
> In puppet we have the concepts of a job being "enabled" and "ensure"
> as being "running" or "stopped"
>
> If you have a KeepAlive job, if you stop it, then launchd relaunches
> it. To truly disable it you need to set it to be "stopped" *and* set
> "enabled" to false in Puppet terminology.
>
> If you have a RunAtLoad job, if you set it to be "enabled", then
> launchd effectively sets it to be "running", so it is impossible to
> have service { "foo": enabled => true, ensure => stopped }
>
> I can implement the refreshable feature by interrogating the job, but
> I'm unsure how to deal with the above mappings.
>
> Do I just throw my hands up and say, your plists, you deal with the
> consequences of jobs set with KeepAlive and RunAtLoad and the service
> settings just work as puppet sets them to be?
>
>
>
>
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>
> --
> Nigel Kersten
> Systems Administrator
> Tech Lead - MacOps
>
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Nigel Kersten
Systems Administrator
Tech Lead - MacOps
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