On Jul 7, 2009, at 10:34 AM, Sam Rowe wrote:

>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:20 AM, James Turnbull<[email protected] 
> > wrote:
>> Not being an expert on this and excuse me if this is a stupid  
>> question
>> ... :)  If this essentially replaced a back-end RDBMS - is it easy  
>> for
>> people to query the data with other tools?  For example, now I have  
>> my
>> database of stored configuration I can readily query it via SQL -  
>> how do
>> I get the same results with TC (can I?)?
>
> Also not being an expert, I'd suggest that it might actually be easier
> to query the data because the datastore matches the schema.

Well, it's schemaless, isn't it?

It's basically just a key/value store, and the data we're storing is  
definitely not just key/value.  If anything, a graph database is the  
best model, but the only one that seems to be around is neo4j, and  
we're not ready to depend on a java library.

I'm not really sure how a catalog, much less hundreds or thousands of  
them, plus node data, plus fact data, would map onto a key/value  
store.  Would each one be stored serialized as the value of a key like  
'catalog_<nodename>'?

So, I don't think it's trivially straightforward.  And even if it  
were, we still need to go through the process of turning our query  
language into an abstract query system to go between the language  
itself and the backend, just like AR is an abstract means of querying  
sql.

>
>> Secondly, how does it scale?  Are there examples of large - and I
>> suspect someone on the list can fill in volumes statistics - hash
>> databases implemented in TC?  We have some users who simply cannot  
>> use
>> stored configuration because it kills their installations as a  
>> result of
>> not scaling - Nigel at Google I am looking at you... :)
>
> According to the presentation slides here:
> http://tokyocabinet.sourceforge.net/ the answer is: very well.


I guess we would be fine here, given that the server version supports  
all of the replication and stuff.

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