Thats Ironic that you would bring up cobbler import.  I am of course biased
in my perception, I wrote the rules for my personal cobbler needs, my
company is deploying in an *very* secure environment with no access to the
internet, so I am used to creating distros in cobbler only after manually
porting in the repos (It took 4 blu-ray discs for all of f12, f13 and
rhel5.5, phew).

The problem is of course a chicken and egg situation as well, I have puppet
create a cobbler/puppetmaster vm on one secure deployment and then "carry"
the vm to another isolated environment to bootstrap it, along with the
Blu-Ray discs.  Ironically, I have puppet bootstrap cobbler which can
bootstrap puppet.... ahh recursion...  For the first node, puppet bootstraps
itself, I have a script which gets a basic puppet up and then puppet
puppetizes itself.

Any suggestions are of course always welcome, I figure I can look into
expanding the functionality once I have the main puppet stuff built.

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Michael DeHaan <[email protected]>wrote:

> That's awesome.   Let us know when you get them posted.
>
> Normally I'd think about cobbler bootstrapping puppet, not the other
> way around, but what I think is interesting about this, is that it
> allows you to rapidly set up cobbler servers from a central puppet
> server -- often cobbler servers are geographically seperated to make
> for fast local mirrors.   While cobbler does have text files for it's
> configuration you could rsync and also check in, this way it's easier
> to keep them with the configurations of other things you want to put
> on those same servers.
>
> The one catch is things (side-effects) that "cobbler import" would do,
> would not be done.    That is, you couldn't rely on "cobbler import"
> to make trees available, rather you'd want to mount your trees such
> that they show up over NFS or http:// ... but other than that, I can
> see that working pretty well.
>
> It's also kind of cool as you can now define the system before it
> exists along with the definition of what it looks like after it
> exists.
>
> TMTOWTDI and what all.
>
> --Michael
>
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Thomas S Hatch <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Thanks Michael.
> > Just to cover my bases, I have fixed up these types and I will have
> > the modified ones up soon, just in case anyone wants to use them.  I will
> > need to completely change my approach on these to speed them up and use
> the
> > xmlrpc.  I am still working on them, it will just take a little while,
> they
> > are kind of big in scope :)
> > -Tom Hatch
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Michael DeHaan <
> [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> If you have permission on web.ss in var/lib/cobbler you can read that
> and
> >> use it as the authentication token, that is how the CLI works, so yes,
> no
> >> Apache required!   Read cli.py for details ... I think :)
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >> On Jun 23, 2010, at 12:00 AM, Thomas S Hatch <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, using the xmlrpc would be much more elegant, and probably faster.
> I
> >> cranked these out very quickly and I wanted to make them very simple to
> >> start.  I also wanted to build an interface that could easily take more
> >> options in the future and simply iterate over the possible values, this
> >> method has worked very well for my in other cobbler automation tasks,
> all of
> >> which have used the xmlrpc interface.
> >>
> >> Thanks for your positive response though, I was a little worried that
> you
> >> had started on cobbler types for puppet given your new position,
> >> congratulations are of course in order!
> >>
> >> One quick question, the cli interface manages calls through xmlrpc, so
> >> they don't seem to need to authenticate, I was wondering how this was
> >> possible, I have not looked for it in the cobbler code yet.  As I
> understand
> >> it apache acts as the authentication layer for the python based xmlrpc
> >> server and runs proxy to the xmlrpc interface.  I assume you can connect
> >> directly to the xmlrpc interface from localhost?
> >>
> >> Thanks Michael, your work on cobbler has been a great benefit to my
> work.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Michael DeHaan
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Sweet!  I think you should use the cobbler xmlrpc API ideally though;
> but
> >>> the CLI uses the same so that is still good.  I will take a closer look
> >>> later this week!
> >>>
> >>> -- Michael
> >>>
> >>> On Jun 22, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Thomas S Hatch <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Here are my cobbler types, and they are my first puppet types(and my
> >>>> ruby is still rather weak), so go easy on me...
> >>>>
> >>>> They still need better doc strings and descriptions, and there are a
> few
> >>>> more parameters I need to support.  Also they could of course use more
> >>>> testing, but what doesn't!
> >>>>
> >>>> Please tell me what you think.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Tom Hatch
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