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PERL Regex in BNF:
http://www.cs.sfu.ca/~cameron/Teaching/384/99-3/regexp-plg.html

Seems worthwhile, but it might be easier just to fake it with a stub to
a reference page.

Trevor

On 12/20/2010 06:38 PM, Luke Kanies wrote:
> Hi Kenn,
> 
> The BNF is definitely not complete - partially because I couldn't quite 
> figure out how complete I could even make it.  Or rather, I didn't take the 
> time to do so.  Can BNF include regexes?
> 
> In general, it should perfectly mirror the current state of Puppet's parser 
> and lexer - that is, <type> should be defined as Puppet does, if at all 
> possible[1].  I'd like to have it fleshed out with all of the regexes, and 
> I'd much appreciate help in doing so.
> 
> 1 - https://github.com/lak/puppet/blob/master/lib/puppet/parser/lexer.rb
> 
> On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Kenn Hussey wrote:
> 
>> After looking at the BNF in more detail, I have a couple of questions:
>>
>> 1. Do you plan to provide definitions (regular expressions?) for the
>> <name>, <uc_name>, <naked_string>, and <quoted_string> elements?
>>
>> 2. Shouldn't the definition for <parameters> be recursive, e.g.,
>> <parameter> "," <parameters> instead of <parameter> "," <parameter>?
>> And if so, is <optional_comma> really needed?
>>
>> 3. Any further thoughts on what a suitable regular expression for
>> <type> might be?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kenn
>>
>>
>> On Dec 20, 1:52 pm, Kenn Hussey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Luke,
>>>
>>> From the looks of things, this is quite relevant to the Puppet-related
>>> work we're doing at Cloudsmith (see Henrik Lindberg's recent post to
>>> the users group). We'd definitely like to help out, especially on the
>>> Java front (most of our work is currently in Java). We've started
>>> working with the BNF definition and will report back as soon as we
>>> have something interesting to share.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Kenn
>>>
>>> On Dec 2, 1:18 am, Luke Kanies <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>> Some have already noticed this, but I've begun a project to define and 
>>>> produce a minimal data-focused subset of Puppet's language, just like JSON 
>>>> is a data-focused subset of Javascript.  I had initially called it MPF 
>>>> (for Minimal Puppet Format), but we've decided to use our internal name 
>>>> for it - p(0), or pzero:
>>>
>>>> https://github.com/lak/pzero
>>>
>>>> The only thing there so far is Jordan Sissel's work getting a Ragel parser 
>>>> to work, along with my attempt at a BNF definition.  My hope is to have 
>>>> implementations in many languages:
>>>
>>>> * Ruby
>>>> * Python
>>>> * C
>>>> * Javascript
>>>> * Java
>>>
>>>> And I'd like each of these to be able to both parse and generate the 
>>>> format.
>>>
>>>> Jesse Wolfe first came up with this idea, and our goal is to have a 
>>>> language that any project or tool can use to describe desired system 
>>>> state.  I'm especially interested in having tools for converting to and 
>>>> from existing data formats, like the rpm and dpkg manifest formats.
>>>
>>>> So anyway, if this is interesting to you, I'd love help on it.  We're 
>>>> still in the formative stages of what it is and what it would do, but 
>>>> we're pretty excited by the potential.  One of the things we clearly need 
>>>> to develop is a list of example files that each implementation could test 
>>>> against.
>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Tradition is what you resort to when you don't have the time or the
>>>> money to do it right.       -- Kurt Herbert Alder
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Luke Kanies  -|-  http://puppetlabs.com -|-   +1(615)594-8199
>>
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