Can you explain why you need to know the difference?

The framework should handle that for you.

On Apr 4, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Gavin Williams <[email protected]> wrote:

> Indeed... :) 
> 
> Ok, next question for you/all... 
> 
> How could I differentiate between what is a resource creation and a resource 
> modification?
> 
> Have updated the netapp_user provider to prefetch/flush, however am 
> struggling to differentiate between what is a resource creation, and what is 
> a modification... 
> Code is here: 
> https://github.com/fatmcgav/fatmcgav-netapp/commit/66092978f4182c5474a60011db99ee2e3e12e689
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Cheers
> Gavin 
> 
> On Tuesday, 2 April 2013 16:17:33 UTC+1, Luke Kanies wrote:
> That is awesome.  It's amazing what a bit of optimization will do for you.
> 
> On Apr 2, 2013, at 3:12 PM, fatmcgav <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Yep, have been testing it today on my dev and production Puppet masters, and 
>> seems to be working as expected... 
>> 
>> Have been very impressed with the performance improvements - Has dropped the 
>> netapp_volume resource time from 40+ seconds to <0.1 seconds. So MASSIVE 
>> improvements to be made from switching to the prefetch/flush style... 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Gav
>> 
>> 
>> On 2 April 2013 13:24, Luke Kanies <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Looks good from a cursory glance.  Hopefully it's all working for you.
>> 
>> On Apr 2, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Gavin Williams <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> As a quick update, I've pushed my latest set of code tweaks up - 
>>> https://github.com/fatmcgav/fatmcgav-netapp/commit/7a7d18bf39cdbb04a3b0b5192929ec6a857c0a5e
>>> 
>>> Need to tidy the code up a bit, but should be able to get the gist :) Have 
>>> got a couple of defs which pull back the bulk of the information, and then 
>>> a couple that need to be called on a volume by volume basis. 
>>> All gets put together in instances, and provider'd up in prefetch. 
>>> 
>>> Comments welcome. 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Gavin 
>>> 
>>> On Friday, 29 March 2013 13:15:12 UTC, Gavin Williams wrote:
>>> Luke
>>> 
>>> Cheers for that info, should prive useful...
>>> 
>>> Guess I could implement a method for each property that pulls back all that 
>>> property values for all the volumes, and then match them up in prefetch.
>>> 
>>> Cheers 
>>> Gav
>>> 
>>> On 29 Mar 2013 12:49, "Luke Kanies" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi Gavin,
>>> 
>>> Yeah, there isn't as much consistency in API as I would like.
>>> 
>>> The way it should work, I believe, is something like:
>>> 
>>> * The Type should support an 'instances' method that returns a complete 
>>> list of all instances of that type that exist on the host itself.  This 
>>> method should not require a catalog.
>>> 
>>> * The provider should support a 'prefetch' method, which accepts a list of 
>>> resources from the catalog and updates them with the correct provider 
>>> instance, with appropriate data already filled in to reflect the system 
>>> state.
>>> 
>>> * Optionally, many providers implement (I think) their own 'instances' 
>>> method, which returns all instances and doesn't require a catalog, to 
>>> implement both of the above methods.
>>> 
>>> I just looked at the Provider base class, though, and it's not at all clear 
>>> from this.  Part of the problem is that the system is smart enough to skip 
>>> providers that don't support prefetch, and the way we denote 'doesn't 
>>> support prefetch' is that it doesn't have the method.  Given that, I left 
>>> the method off of the base class.  Because 'instances' isn't used for this 
>>> kind of test, the base class ships with a stub method that just throws an 
>>> error.
>>> 
>>> So yeah, all that's confusing, and could really use some additional work to 
>>> make it easier to understand, and to bring some consistency.
>>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2013, at 12:37 PM, fatmcgav <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Luke
>>>> 
>>>> No worries.
>>>> 
>>>> For the 2 I've converted soo far, it's made quite a performance 
>>>> difference. Thankfully can pull back all the resources with one NetApp api 
>>>> call, so it's drop the resource time from 5+ seconds to sub 1 second. 
>>>> However was a bit confused initially, as different providers seem to use 
>>>> different models... Some with just prefetch, some with just instances, 
>>>> some with both...
>>>> 
>>>> However I'm just about to start the more complex netapp_volume provider, 
>>>> which has 4+ properties that have different api calls on top of the base 
>>>> resource list call. This is by far the slowest provider out of them with 
>>>> an average of 20+ seconds per run. 
>>>> So not sure of the best way to handle as yet.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers 
>>>> Gav
>>>> 
>>>> On 29 Mar 2013 12:11, "Luke Kanies" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hi Gavin,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm glad to see you've sorted it out, sorry I didn't jump in before it was 
>>>> all resolved.
>>>> 
>>>> How has prefetching worked out for you, in terms of performance?
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 28, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Gavin Williams <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Afternoon
>>>>> 
>>>>> Managed to find my issue.. Variable name re-use :( 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Defined 'qtrees' as an empty array on line 3, and then populated it with 
>>>>> a whole load of device output on line 18 :( 
>>>>> 
>>>>> So have defined a 'qtree_instances' array on the outside to contain my 
>>>>> output, with qtrees being used on the inside to hold the NetApp filer 
>>>>> response... Latest code in Github.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Gavin 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thursday, 28 March 2013 11:44:39 UTC, Gavin Williams wrote:
>>>>> Morning all
>>>>> 
>>>>> Quick update... Looks like I managed to hack around the issue by adding 
>>>>> the following:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ...
>>>>>         ap qtree_info
>>>>>  
>>>>>         # Check if it is a NaElement
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>         next unless qtree_info.respond_to?(:child_get_string)
>>>>>  
>>>>>         # Pull out the qtree name.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>         name = qtree_info.child_get_string("qtree")
>>>>> ...
>>>>> 
>>>>> However this shows that I'm getting a total of 78 items processed, 
>>>>> whereas the original array only contains 53 items... 
>>>>> The additional items being processed are all like: 
>>>>> '#<Puppet::Type::Netapp_qtree::ProviderNetapp_qtree:'.
>>>>> Have updated the gist with latest code and log file. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Would like to understand where these are coming from, and if it's 
>>>>> something I'm doing incorrectly? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> In the mean-time, following fixing that bug, the provider now seems to 
>>>>> work as expected :) 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Gavin 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:32:23 UTC, Gavin Williams wrote:
>>>>> Afternoon all
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've started working on converting a couple more of my NetApp network 
>>>>> device providers to use a prefetch/flush model, as can see performance 
>>>>> gains available, etc... 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyways, I'm having issues with my netapp_qtree provider. It would appear 
>>>>> that somehow, an additional Puppet::Type... row is getting into an array 
>>>>> and breaking things... 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Have created a gist here with the details, as the log file is quite long. 
>>>>> Also includes the instances and prefetch def's for my netapp_qtree 
>>>>> provider...
>>>>> 
>>>>> As you can see on Line 337 of the log, the array contains 40 items, 
>>>>> however on line 734 self.instances is trying to process item 41?!?!
>>>>> What's also strange is that the item contents look like a Puppet Type 
>>>>> (#<Puppet::Type::Netapp_qtree), whereas all the others in the array are 
>>>>> NetApp specific items (#<NaElement:).
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, any ideas???
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Gavin 
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