On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Henrik Lindberg <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2014-09-08 20:32, Wil Cooley wrote:
>
>> On Aug 8, 2014 5:15 PM, "Hailee Kenney" <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>  >
>>  > Right now, Charlie Sharpsteen has an awesome prototype which uses
>> YARDoc instead of RDoc.
>>
>> I see that "YARD does not impose a specific markup"[1] and I cannot tell
>> from Charlie's prototype which markup is intended -- I would hope that
>> one of them would be picked as a standard and I would be happiest with
>> something that uses some flavor of Markdown.
>>
>>  So far, the idea has been to standardize on a particular preferred
> markup based on Markdown with a selection of tags from yardoc. In order to
> no force everyone that has invested in writing RDoc documentation to
> rewrite all docs in their manifests, we also need to continue supporting
> this. However, note that the support for any kind of markup in the current
> puppet doc tool is very very limited, and it is really only this limited
> set that will be supported going forward. Therefore there is typically not
> much markup at all in documentation.
>
> I expect us to exactly specify the markdown and tagging that the new
> "puppet doc" tool will support. IMO this specification will be compatible
> with Markdown (some defined flavor) and yardoc tags.
>
>
>  I understand that more semantic markup is desired, but I find the
>> proliferation of wildly incompatible text markup formats frustrating.
>> Variations in Markdown implementations[2] are bad enough; having to
>> mentally switch to RDoc format to write module documentation causes much
>> wailing and gnashing of teeth.
>>
>> Is this intended to be used only in Puppet manifests, or would there be
>> support (in tooling/standards, at least) for using it in Ruby exentions
>> too?
>>
>>
> Yes, Since the idea is to be Markdown/Yard compatible.
>
>
>  I would also like to express my concern about: "Documentation blocks
>> must immediately precede the documented code with no whitespace." -- I
>> spent several hours that could better have been spent watching Vanilla
>> Sky or Gigli to this little bundle of joy in the current implementation
>> -- particularly the "with no whitespace" bit.
>>
>>  Yeah, hate that for two reasons; a) you may accidentally get
> documentation output when you intended a comment, and b) the documentation
> may not show up if there is a blank space.
>
> We no longer have to have this rule. It has also been proposed that
> comments sequences that start with ## are special. This is important since
> it is also proposed that it should be possible to document parameters on
> the same line (after the declared element). say
>
>     foo ## This is doc for foo
>
> Here the ## are needed if we want it to be possible to write a comment
> that is not documentation.
>
> - henrik
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Thanks for all the feedback everyone! Going back to the issue of naming, I
have a list of suggestions I've collected that I wanted throw out there for
discussion:

puppet strings (this seems to be a popular choice)
puppet readme
puppet guide
puppet usage
puppet dox
puppet watson (or potentially another muppet-related name)
puppet pub / puppet pubs (as in publication)
puppet tome
puppet info
puppet eyes

Thoughts on any of these?

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Associate Developer, Puppet Labs

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