On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Kyle Cordes <k...@kylecordes.com> wrote:
>
> Nigel Kersten wrote:
>> I'd personally like to see there be a focus on getting the most recent
>> Puppet packages into the Debian/Ubuntu backport repositories.
>
> I think we'd all (here) like that.
>
> Sadly, I've concluded from various past experiences that, on average,
> only the most popular packages are prone to prompt updates for new
> upstream versions. Backports to not-the-current-distro are even more
> rare, for various good reasons.

Backports of server products to the last LTS release in Ubuntu should
be something we can get done and I'm keen to push on trying to get
that going.



>
> Therefore, when adopting something less widely used, especially if I
> need the same (current) package version for various distro versions, I'm
> resigned to having to either package it myself, or find someone "out
> there" offering updated packages.

Particularly given how a standard Puppet environment has reasonably
loose requirements, I reckon we can do better than this as a community
:)


>
>
> Example #1: Puppet
>
>
> Example #2: udpcast
>
> Udpcast is an extremely useful tool, both for cloning systems en masse,
> and for totally unrelated uses like the one I describe here:
>
> http://kylecordes.com/2008/10/21/multicast-your-db-backups-with-udpcast/
>
> Yet the version in the very latest Ubuntu is from 2004:
>
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/udpcast
>
> (the same for Debian.)
>
>
> Example #3: Zabbix
>
> To get good results with Zabbix, it's necessary to have approximately
> the same, approximately current versions, on all machines. The versions
> in various current and past Ubuntu and Debian releases / backports are
> not even close.
>
>
> --
> Kyle Cordes
> http://kylecordes.com
>
> >
>



-- 
Nigel Kersten
nig...@google.com
System Administrator
Google, Inc.

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