Does setting filetimeout to 0 work? Feels like you should be able to
disable re-parsing the config files in Puppet if you want, and if that
doesn't work, I'd file a bug.



On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Greg<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The netbackup fix isn't an option unfortunately - causes enough other
> grief apparently to be not worth doing.
>
> I went through the code and looked at what is involved in changing it
> to
> mtime as an option, and its quite trivial, even for someone like
> myself
> who doesn't know Ruby well enough yet. My main issue is that I don't
> know what depends on that - ie. what its impact is... Maybe I submit
> it as a patch and see what the powers that be think of it...
>
> But on the other hand, its such a minor thing that has no real impact,
> so its almost not worth it...
>
> Greg
>
> On Jul 1, 12:44 am, Nigel Kersten <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Greg<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Nigel,
>>
>> > Actually, its happening 10 mins into backups... And its using
>> > Netbackup...
>>
>> > Looks like I'm stuck with it, unless its possible to get that check to
>> > happen on mtime
>> > instead of ctime... (Of course then theres the question of which is
>> > more useful, etc...)
>> > Its not a major issue... The only real issue is that it pollutes the
>> > logs a little bit...
>>
>> http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/200644.htm
>>
>> a. At some sites, saving and restoring a file's atime, while leaving
>> the file's ctime in its changed state, may present a problem. To cause
>> NetBackup to not reset the file's access time, insert the keyword
>> DO_NOT_RESET_FILE_ACCESS_TIME in the /usr/openv/netbackup/bp.conf file
>> of the client.
>>
>> so this will mean that your atime is continually changing as files are
>> backed up, but as the atime is not reset, the ctime will be left
>> alone.
>>
>> Until I found that I had vague thoughts of a Puppet patch to use a
>> checksum instead of ctime for parsed files, but this is the only time
>> using the ctime has bothered me.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Thanks,
>>
>> > Greg
>>
>> > On Jun 30, 1:50 am, Nigel Kersten <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Greg<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >> > Hi all,
>>
>> >> > I've noticed roughly every 24 hours my puppetmasters will reread the
>> >> > puppet.conf even if there is no change to
>> >> > the file. Logs look something like this:
>>
>> >> > Jun 27 18:15:10 puppet-prod puppetmasterd[15161]: [ID 702911
>> >> > daemon.notice] Sat Jun 27 18:09:43 +1000 2009 vs Fri Jun 26 18:06:11
>> >> > +1000 2009
>> >> > Jun 27 18:15:17 puppet-prod puppetmasterd[15200]: [ID 702911
>> >> > daemon.notice] Reparsing /etc/opt/csw/puppet/puppet.conf
>>
>> >> > Does anyone know if we can influence the frequency of this? I'd like
>> >> > to make it less frequent as it re-reads the config file as soon as its
>> >> > changed anyway (not that it changes much anyway)... Maybe weekly is
>> >> > sufficient...
>>
>> >> Does this happen to correlated to backup times on these servers?
>>
>> >> I ran into an issue with NetBackup where by default it restores the
>> >> atime of a file after backing it up, which modifies the ctime of the
>> >> file, which causes Puppet to think that the file has changed and
>> >> reparse it.
>>
>> >> > thanks,
>>
>> >> > Greg
>>
>> >> --
>> >> Nigel Kersten
>> >> [email protected]
>> >> System Administrator
>> >> Google, Inc.
>>
>> --
>> Nigel Kersten
>> [email protected]
>> System Administrator
>> Google, Inc.
> >
>



-- 
Nigel Kersten
[email protected]
System Administrator
Google, Inc.

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