On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:10 AM, R.I.Pienaar <[email protected]> wrote:

> the overall point is there are features that are not designed in a way I
> believe has everyones needs in mind and certainly hasnt had community input.

I have to admit I was absent from the community when parameterized
classes were introduced as my day job was taking all my time, but did
we really *never* send anything out about it other than the patch
submissions to puppet-dev ?

I thought I'd seen proposals seeking feedback before 2.6.0.

If this wasn't the case, then that was a screwup.

As far as fixing the situation we're in now though, I've been pushing
people to provide feedback on:

http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/5046

I would love to see your proposals for improving the situation there RI.

> The language design process needs to be improved so that the result is less
> inconsistent and weird.

I agree. I think this is partly a consequence of us generally
accepting patches without having serious curation and discussion of
the consequences, and partly due to our community being largely made
up of sysadmins who are time-poor, with small scraps of time here and
there to devote to this sort of discussion.

It's a difficult line to tread, as going too far in the other
direction means we're rejecting too many contributions from the
community, and no-one wants to be in that situation.

So lets fix this.

What do we need?

A formalized group that takes the time to have oversight over language
changes according to general principles we've agreed on?

How official does this need to be? A full on committee with rotating
roles and elections etc etc ? A volunteer group whose membership is
completely ad hoc? Why aren't we getting the right feedback on the
Dev/User lists when proposals are sent out?

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