On 07/17/2012 07:31 PM, Jo Rhett wrote:
>> Is this not the epitome of diverse and redundant dependancies? I can't
>> edit my hiera data without evaluating puppet manifests, I can't edit the
>> puppet manifests without editing the hiera data…

On Jul 18, 2012, at 1:19 AM, Felix Frank wrote:
> Rather, if you're not intending to scribble YAML files by hand (which is
> entirely possible), you would have to write a web frontend or similar.


Understood. The problem is that every example I've seen to date you have to 
know the puppet module code well to edit the data. The value of a front-end 
would be to allow users other than ruby coders to manage the data. I haven't 
seen any examples with enough differentiation for that.

Ultimately I guess you build an entire ecosystem where you tie the front-end 
data management code to the puppet manifests in git and update both at the same 
time--but that's one hell of an infrastructure creation that I don't have 
enough free time for.  In short, I believe that hiera is only useful for 
companies who already have a large information schema from which to draw their 
data, and you are only editing the hiera adapters to get the data as you update 
the puppet manifests.  Anyone else has a huge project to get to "useful".

-- 
Jo Rhett
Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects.



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