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> From: "Jose Luis Ledesma" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 4:51:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Puppet Users] MCollective/Puppet - one-time run with other 
> options
> 
> The problem about using runall/concurrency is that you cannot know when it
> will finish, so setting it on the crontab could be a source of a problems if
> it has not yet finished when the next run is schedulee

You could just use a lock file and not run then.  Or wait or whatever.  

There are 3 variables:

 - how many nodes are running
 - how often they run
 - how long to sleep between them

you cannot optimise all 3 these variables, the old puppetcommander would skip
nodes that it cannot run in the time so it would always finish in the allocated
time.  This had the draw back that if you miss-specify your max run time or just
can't be bothered to monitor it over time as you added nodes you can end up with
nodes that just never run.

the new runall algorithm will run all nodes as quick as it can, but cannot 
guarantee
it will finish within your half an hour.  This is the better algo since all 
your nodes
will run and your master will not be DOS'd. But the important thing is that all 
nodes
do get a run.

So now you have to just decide what is important for you.  If you would like to 
know
when your concurrency and run times are such that it can't finish in 30 minutes 
given
your master resources just make your cronjob write a lock file and notify when 
the
next one finds a lock - you should then look why, maybe your manifests have 
gotten
so slow that it cant possibly finish anymore.

Or just run the thing in a loop forever let it make best efforts without 
killing your
master - in this case a simple daemon will work.


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