My upgrade is actually a clean install on a new system -- I am, of course, 
not touching the production puppetmaster while I am putzing around with the 
upgrade. In the process of installing Puppet 3.7, I blow away all the RPMs 
and directories, and install Puppet from scratch (I have a script that's 
supposed to bootstrap it).

Anyway, see my post above -- apparently it was the 'certname' value that 
was causing 'puppet module list' to fail, which is exceedingly weird.



On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 4:37:37 PM UTC-4, jcbollinger wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 12:32:48 PM UTC-5, Victor Danilchenko wrote:
>>
>> John,
>>
>> Sorry, I should have been more thorough -- this is Puppet 3.7 master, 
>> running as root (so it has full access to everything).
>>
>
>
> Actually, the master normally *shouldn't* run as root.  Whether it does 
> depends on how you start it, but Puppet packages I've seen typically set up 
> the master to run under a for-purpose service account, typically named 
> "puppet".  The master has no need for privilege to perform its work, so 
> good security practices dictate that it not have any.  (The agent is a 
> different matter.)
>
> Regardless of the user id of the puppetmaster process, there might be an 
> access control issue involved.  Even root is affected by some forms of 
> access control (SELinux policy, server-enforced policy on remote network 
> directories).
>
> Also, since you said you were upgrading, can you be sure that you don't 
> have any bits lying around from an older Puppet version (or even a whole 
> copy of another Puppet version)?  That might happen if you performed 
> multiple installs, such as a source install and an RPM / DEB install (and 
> maybe even a gem install, too).  It can happen in such cases that Puppet 
> loads a mixture of bits from different versions, and then all manner of 
> strange behavior can occur.
>  
>
>>
>> Yes, 'puppet module 
>> --modulepath=/etc/puppet/environments/production/modules list' also 
>> works -- but I was under impression that supplying the environmentpath value 
>> in puppet.conf, in the [main] section, was sufficient.
>>
>
>
> I think you have the right expectation, provided that Puppet is in fact 
> reading the config file you think it's reading.  My point was that your 
> code excerpt specified a --confdir that appeared to in fact be a modulepath.
>
>  
>
>> I can set the module.path explicitly in each environment.conf file, but I 
>> am hoping to avoid that.
>>
>
>
> As indeed you should be able to do.
>
>  
>
>>
>> Note BTW that calling 'puppet module --confdir=/etc/puppet list' does 
>> NOT work: is results in the same error as in the OP -- Puppet simply finds 
>> no modules.
>>
>>
>
> Fair enough.  I'm still having difficulty spotting any problem in your 
> config file, so I still think the problem is likely related to your 
> directory layout, contents, or access controls.  Do satisfy yourself about 
> the integrity of your Puppet install, but that's a bit of a long shot.
>
>  
>
>> My manifest directory is populated with a working manifest: this is the 
>> environment I simply copied from our working Puppet 3.4 master installation 
>> using explicitly configured environments. Both 
>> environments/production/manifests and environments/production/modules 
>> directories are properly populated (and yes, I need to use per-environment 
>> manifests, not the global one).
>>
>>
>
> That's more or less the way I would have proceeded myself, but if you can 
> "[copy] from [your] working Puppet 3.4 master installation" then does that 
> mean that you have Puppet 3.4 and Puppet 3.7 installed at the same time on 
> the same machine?  If so, that's an uncertain proposition.  I would 
> recommend first upgrading from 3.4 to 3.7 (keeping your existing config 
> file environments), then, separately, moving to directory environments.
>
>
> John
>
>

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