so i checked on the machine that i made the external  on and [knob] is
coming from the flatspace lib... i don't have the flatspace lib on this
puredyne system, so a few questions.


1) is there a difference between CD and DVD versions of puredata for
puredyne (for size reasons maybe)?

2) who packages puredata for puredyne?... i would imagine it would be
easiest to just package pd-extended but maybe i'm wrong here.

3) can i just copy the entire lib over from the other system?

4) i remember the adding of libraries to be an issue in the past (no
recursize search and all) so I could write a quick script to generate a
.pdrc file. in perl. but im looking at the pdrc and was wondering if there
is a naming convention i should follow for naming the libs... should i just
name the -lib for the folder of -path???

thanks much for the help,
tyler


On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:01 AM, grant centauri <[email protected]>wrote:

> i ran into some trouble trying to use other peoples patches that used
> externals.  i seem to remember finding the external on the system, but pd
> didn't have a path to it.  i kept trying to give it one but pd wasn't
> searching recursively and i ended up copying the external into my own pd
> directory and telling it to look there.
>
> here's a reply i got from claude earlier when i was asking the same
> question:
>
> On 21/07/10 13:47, grant centauri wrote:
>
>> hello all,
>>
>> i've been delving into Pure Data a bit, as I was once a Max/MSP user and
>> feel its time to put that knowledge back to use.
>>
>> however, i'm having a few issues with getting all of the extras that
>> seem to be included in the pd package to load in the actual software.
>> for example, I was trying to run a patch that used freeverb~, and when
>> trying to load it freeverb~ could not be found.  I located the
>> freeverb~.pd file in something like
>> /usr/lib/pd/extras/footils/foo/freeverb~.pd .. so I added that directory
>> to Pd's search path.  freeverb~ then loaded, however now I had an issue
>> with plugin~ not existing, specifically plugin~ freeverb3
>>
>
> If you can add to or file new bug reports about missing .pdrc -path and
> -lib settings (see below) and/or any externals that you would like to see
> packaged by the Puredyne team, it would really help us to keep track of what
> needs to be improved.
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/puredyne/+filebug
>
>
>  it seems to me like there's a lot of stuff in the pure:dyne distribution
>> that isn't getting loaded by Pd, and I was wondering if there's a quick
>> and easy way to get all of the externals and abstractions into Pd's
>> path.
>>
>
> Pd doesn't make it easy at the moment, unfortunately :(
>
> There is work going on upstream (ie, by Pure-data developers) to make
> libraries work better, with better ways to build/distribute libraries for Pd
> and to declare/import libraries that are used by patches, so in the future
> patches should 'just work' on any system that has the required libraries
> installed (and if you miss libraries you'll get more useful error messages).
>  Until that is done, and until old patches get updated to the new standards
> (whatever they turn out to be), this is a bit of a problem, and one that
> Puredyne can't really solve on its own.
>
>
>  I tried adding /usr/lib/pd, but that didn't seem to work quite
>> right.
>>
>
> Right, Pd doesn't search recursively, so you have to add each folder
> separately.  Moreover, Pd doesn't provide a way to autodetect installed
> libraries, so when building a live distribution like Puredyne we have to add
> all those folders into the ~/.pdrc preferences file for Pd, and occasionally
> we forget to add some.
>
>
> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~puredyne-team/broth/devel/annotate/head:/stock/chroot_local-includes/etc/skel/.pdrc<http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Epuredyne-team/broth/devel/annotate/head:/stock/chroot_local-includes/etc/skel/.pdrc>
>
> should be very similar to what's on the Puredyne 9.11 liveDVD.
>
>
> I never did write a bug report :/ i've got to get more savvy with how to
> help out development
>
> On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Tyler Leavitt <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> So I made an external that uses the [knob] object on a non puredyne distro
>> with pd-extended... and now on my puredyne system it can't find [knob]...
>> why is this not included in the dyne and how can I find it / install it?
>>
>> thanks.
>> tyler
>>
>>
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>>
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