Hello John and All I have had Puredyne running on a T42 without issue, but as I'm a newbie playing around I don't have external cards (yet).
Suggest: try not using the external card for now, and just seeing if supercollider wants to play with internal sound system. I just followed the instructions at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Puredyne/Making_audio If that works with Jack then you KNOW its a card issue. Cheers On 3 January 2011 17:35, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send Puredyne mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.goto10.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/puredyne > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Puredyne digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Newbie questions (John Schmitt) > 2. Re: Newbie questions (Dan S) > 3. Re: Newbie questions (geoffroy tremblay) > 4. Re: Newbie questions (Tyler Leavitt) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 08:36:46 -0800 (PST) > From: John Schmitt <[email protected]> > Subject: [puredyne] Newbie questions > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi list, > > after years and years of music making on Windows and MacOS I'm ready to try it > on Linux, mainly because Apple is starting to annoy me as much as Microsoft > did > before I switched. > > Anyway, here's what I want to do: > > I'd like to use my laptop as a low latency live audio processing environment > (Supercollider, maybe in combination with Ardour which I haven't tried yet but > which looks nice for mixing) > > I'd like to control SC (and Ardour) through a midi/usb interface and possibly > over wifi using OSC. > > Here's what I got: > > - a Thinkpad T42. > - a Dawicontrol dw-1394 pcmcia firewire card with TI chipset (no info about > this > stuff on the net). > - an Echo Audiofire 4 Audiocard with midi interface (described as fully > supported on the ffado list). > - an Akai LPD8 midi over usb interface > - an iPod touch > - a Wiimote > > I've downloaded the latest Puredyne live cd, connected and turned on my > Firewire > interface and booted the T42. I started Jack which gave me an error starting > up. > In the configuration page there was a pulldown device list with some strange > names. Then I opened SC vim and I didn't even manage to type > "{SinOsc.ar}.play" > It was pure frustration. I didn't understand a thing. I heard, Emacs is even > harder to learn. WTF???? Is there a decent text editor for Linux? (intentional > polemic ;-)) > > My questions: > > - Is there a chance I can do what I want with Puredyne or should I just give > up > and go back into the cozy arms of corporatism? > - If the answer to the first question is yes, can someone give me some clues > as > to how to achieve it? > - Is there a text editor that's actually usable with SC? > - If yes, how???? > > Thanks a lot in advance, > Axel > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.goto10.org/pipermail/puredyne/attachments/20110103/820f46e4/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 17:13:30 +0000 > From: Dan S <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [puredyne] Newbie questions > To: puredyne <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi Axel (or John?) - > > > 2011/1/3 John Schmitt <[email protected]>: >> Hi list, >> >> after years and years of music making on Windows and MacOS I'm ready to try >> it on Linux, mainly because Apple is starting to annoy me as much as >> Microsoft did before I switched. > > Yeah I know - I was on Apple for years, but I'm really getting to the > point of being embarrassed to still have some Apple equipment. > > >> Anyway, here's what I want to do: >> >> I'd like to use my laptop as a low latency live audio processing environment >> (Supercollider, maybe in combination with Ardour which I haven't tried yet >> but which looks nice for mixing) >> >> I'd like to control SC (and Ardour) through a midi/usb interface and >> possibly over wifi using OSC. >> >> Here's what I got: >> >> - a Thinkpad T42. >> - a Dawicontrol dw-1394 pcmcia firewire card with TI chipset (no info about >> this stuff on the net). >> - an Echo Audiofire 4 Audiocard with midi interface (described as fully >> supported on the ffado list). >> - an Akai LPD8 midi over usb interface >> - an iPod touch >> - a Wiimote >> >> I've downloaded the latest Puredyne live cd, connected and turned on my >> Firewire interface and booted the T42. I started Jack which gave me an error >> starting up. > > I don't know much about firewire interfaces I'm afraid since I don't > have fw here - but check the archives, there's been some useful > conversation about getting fw audio working nicely. e.g. > http://lists.goto10.org/pipermail/puredyne/2010-April/003661.html > > But it's really worth saying what the error message *was* - someone > might understand it and know what to suggest. > >> In the configuration page there was a pulldown device list with >> some strange names. Then I opened SC vim and I didn't even manage to type >> "{SinOsc.ar}.play" >> It was pure frustration. I didn't understand a thing. I heard, Emacs is even >> harder to learn. WTF???? Is there a decent text editor for Linux? >> (intentional polemic ;-)) > > Well both vim and emacs are genuinely very good, but neither of them > is immediately obvious since they use keyboard commands that won't be > familiar to people at first. For example, your vim issue was probably > that you didn't know that you press 'i' to go into insert mode > (allowing you to type text) and Escape to go out of insert mode. Vim > and emacs are the choice of many power-users - you can take that to > mean either that they're probably worth learning, or maybe they're > just geeky enough to earn geek cred ;) > > If you want a text editor that's more like the msword-type mainstream, > look at gedit. It's nice, and it also has a supercollider "mode", so > it might be right up your street. Personally I use scvim so I don't > know the exact details in gedit, but you do something like choose the > supercollider plugin once you've started gedit. (In puredyne it should > be installed already) > > HTH > Dan > > >> My questions: >> >> - Is there a chance I can do what I want with Puredyne or should I just give >> up and go back into the cozy arms of corporatism? >> - If the answer to the first question is yes, can someone give me some clues >> as to how to achieve it? >> - Is there a text editor that's actually usable with SC? >> - If yes, how???? >> >> Thanks a lot in advance, >> Axel >> >> >> --- >> [email protected] >> http://identi.ca/group/puredyne >> irc://irc.goto10.org/puredyne >> > > > > -- > http://www.mcld.co.uk > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 10:24:06 -0700 > From: geoffroy tremblay <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [puredyne] Newbie questions > To: puredyne <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > you might be better of he cosy arms of corporation ! > > vi is one of the most powerful editor ~ you better start leaning it > now if you want to play in linux > puredyne would work perfectly for what you want to do - you just need > a ounce more of patience > and some time aside for learning time. > > for sc - you have to make sure jack work > for jack to work, you have to make sure alsa is not taking over your sound > card > (alsamixer is your friend there) > > It's also easier to get help in the different forum about different > software - there are a lot of online help for > jack and sc and vim ~ > > I can help you get started if you are willing to give it a try ;) > > > > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 9:36 AM, John Schmitt <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi list, >> >> after years and years of music making on Windows and MacOS I'm ready to try >> it on Linux, mainly because Apple is starting to annoy me as much as >> Microsoft did before I switched. >> >> Anyway, here's what I want to do: >> >> I'd like to use my laptop as a low latency live audio processing environment >> (Supercollider, maybe in combination with Ardour which I haven't tried yet >> but which looks nice for mixing) >> >> I'd like to control SC (and Ardour) through a midi/usb interface and >> possibly over wifi using OSC. >> >> Here's what I got: >> >> - a Thinkpad T42. >> - a Dawicontrol dw-1394 pcmcia firewire card with TI chipset (no info about >> this stuff on the net). >> - an Echo Audiofire 4 Audiocard with midi interface (described as fully >> supported on the ffado list). >> - an Akai LPD8 midi over usb interface >> - an iPod touch >> - a Wiimote >> >> I've downloaded the latest Puredyne live cd, connected and turned on my >> Firewire interface and booted the T42. I started Jack which gave me an error >> starting up. In the configuration page there was a pulldown device list with >> some strange names. Then I opened SC vim and I didn't even manage to type >> "{SinOsc.ar}.play" >> It was pure frustration. I didn't understand a thing. I heard, Emacs is even >> harder to learn. WTF???? Is there a decent text editor for Linux? >> (intentional polemic ;-)) >> >> My questions: >> >> - Is there a chance I can do what I want with Puredyne or should I just give >> up and go back into the cozy arms of corporatism? >> - If the answer to the first question is yes, can someone give me some clues >> as to how to achieve it? >> - Is there a text editor that's actually usable with SC? >> - If yes, how???? >> >> Thanks a lot in advance, >> Axel >> >> >> --- >> [email protected] >> http://identi.ca/group/puredyne >> irc://irc.goto10.org/puredyne >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 09:35:22 -0800 > From: Tyler Leavitt <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [puredyne] Newbie questions > To: puredyne <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I second what Dan S said about gedit.... just looked it up and the plugin is > called "Sced" and it is installed on puredyne (9.11 atleast). > > That being said, I have to point out that you said you were "ready to try" > on Linux. I understand the frustration, but if you are ready to give up > after not being able to understand vim your first try, you won't last long > =) > > What was the error message in JACK? Copy/paste the error from the window > message... Did you have "firewire" selected as your driver? > > Also... reading this (https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=740385) > doesn't make your situation look very good. This was posted in June 2009 so > it may be different now, but it looks like a hassle setting this card up in > Linux. That being said post the Jack error and make sure "firewire" driver > is selected. > > Tyler > > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Dan S > <[email protected]<danstowell%[email protected]> >> wrote: > >> Hi Axel (or John?) - >> >> >> 2011/1/3 John Schmitt <[email protected]>: >> > Hi list, >> > >> > after years and years of music making on Windows and MacOS I'm ready to >> try >> > it on Linux, mainly because Apple is starting to annoy me as much as >> > Microsoft did before I switched. >> >> Yeah I know - I was on Apple for years, but I'm really getting to the >> point of being embarrassed to still have some Apple equipment. >> >> >> > Anyway, here's what I want to do: >> > >> > I'd like to use my laptop as a low latency live audio processing >> environment >> > (Supercollider, maybe in combination with Ardour which I haven't tried >> yet >> > but which looks nice for mixing) >> > >> > I'd like to control SC (and Ardour) through a midi/usb interface and >> > possibly over wifi using OSC. >> > >> > Here's what I got: >> > >> > - a Thinkpad T42. >> > - a Dawicontrol dw-1394 pcmcia firewire card with TI chipset (no info >> about >> > this stuff on the net). >> > - an Echo Audiofire 4 Audiocard with midi interface (described as fully >> > supported on the ffado list). >> > - an Akai LPD8 midi over usb interface >> > - an iPod touch >> > - a Wiimote >> > >> > I've downloaded the latest Puredyne live cd, connected and turned on my >> > Firewire interface and booted the T42. I started Jack which gave me an >> error >> > starting up. >> >> I don't know much about firewire interfaces I'm afraid since I don't >> have fw here - but check the archives, there's been some useful >> conversation about getting fw audio working nicely. e.g. >> http://lists.goto10.org/pipermail/puredyne/2010-April/003661.html >> >> But it's really worth saying what the error message *was* - someone >> might understand it and know what to suggest. >> >> > In the configuration page there was a pulldown device list with >> > some strange names. Then I opened SC vim and I didn't even manage to type >> > "{SinOsc.ar}.play" >> > It was pure frustration. I didn't understand a thing. I heard, Emacs is >> even >> > harder to learn. WTF???? Is there a decent text editor for Linux? >> > (intentional polemic ;-)) >> >> Well both vim and emacs are genuinely very good, but neither of them >> is immediately obvious since they use keyboard commands that won't be >> familiar to people at first. For example, your vim issue was probably >> that you didn't know that you press 'i' to go into insert mode >> (allowing you to type text) and Escape to go out of insert mode. Vim >> and emacs are the choice of many power-users - you can take that to >> mean either that they're probably worth learning, or maybe they're >> just geeky enough to earn geek cred ;) >> >> If you want a text editor that's more like the msword-type mainstream, >> look at gedit. It's nice, and it also has a supercollider "mode", so >> it might be right up your street. Personally I use scvim so I don't >> know the exact details in gedit, but you do something like choose the >> supercollider plugin once you've started gedit. (In puredyne it should >> be installed already) >> >> HTH >> Dan >> >> >> > My questions: >> > >> > - Is there a chance I can do what I want with Puredyne or should I just >> give >> > up and go back into the cozy arms of corporatism? >> > - If the answer to the first question is yes, can someone give me some >> clues >> > as to how to achieve it? >> > - Is there a text editor that's actually usable with SC? >> > - If yes, how???? >> > >> > Thanks a lot in advance, >> > Axel >> > >> > >> > --- >> > [email protected] >> > http://identi.ca/group/puredyne >> > irc://irc.goto10.org/puredyne >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> http://www.mcld.co.uk >> --- >> [email protected] >> http://identi.ca/group/puredyne >> irc://irc.goto10.org/puredyne >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.goto10.org/pipermail/puredyne/attachments/20110103/0f72ccd8/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Puredyne mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.goto10.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/puredyne > > End of Puredyne Digest, Vol 68, Issue 1 > *************************************** > -- Keith Burnett http://bodmas.org/ --- [email protected] http://identi.ca/group/puredyne irc://irc.goto10.org/puredyne
