HI Dan & all Puredyne/GOTO10 people, Well bloody hell, it certainly does feel like the end of an era.
I too was hooked, from the moment the skull & crossbones popped out of my knackered old laptop with the old dynebolic build, 'yep - that's the one for me' I thought. It's been great, truly. Even recently I spent a really frustrating month in a fancy-dan AV suite wrestling with FCP. Aargh, 'twas grim. Ended up making lo-res versions of the various video files and did it at home with Kdenlive. I didn't even know what Kdenlive was (had no use for it previously) but there it was, a right-click and scroll away, just waiting. So in that sense I will miss having some quality tools tucked away in my all-purpose-techno-guerrilla-bag'o'tricks. Also guess that C&C will be now become a future classic. I'm gonna d/l a fresh copy for safekeeping. Couple of questions: When the list goes will the archive still be up somewhere (I would think it will have its uses)? Who's writing or applying for some cash to do some writing up of the various ins and outs that have happened within Puredyne over the last decade? 'Cos it's a cracking bodice-ripper/whodunnit of a story I bet! No but really. I've had so much help from so many people over the years (I still think of myself as a newbie in all of the nitty gritty stuff tbh - perhaps that's a healthy approach, there's always someone more knowledgeable than you, except this time they are quite often more than willing to share. What a wonderful attitude. For all the Pure Data I would like to thank Aymeric, Claude and Chun. Their approach to packaging vanilla plus externals was bang-on. I do think there is less of a gulf these days between Pd and PdE, and a lot of that is because from where I'm sitting PdE has moved over this way in its approach. Maybe that's the way it was heading anyway but Puredyne seemed to be doing it first. The 0xA e.p. was fantastic, FLOSS & Art book too, plus the 'free as in beer' beer. Can't overestimate that it sounded like a laugh as well. Well done all. Very best wishes, Julian On 5 February 2012 19:59, Dan S <danstowell+pured...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Puredyne community, > > As you might have noticed, Puredyne's development has somewhat stalled > with our latest release being Carrot and Coriander. While still > working perfectly on most machines, this release is now pretty old. If > you follow the list and IRC regularly you are aware that we have been > working on a new version, Gazpacho, for a little while now, and got as > far as an alpha release. > > This alpha release was our last soup. > > Truth is, some annoying bugs have held us back from releasing a new > stable Puredyne, and we have been struggling to find the time, > motivation and energy to get the job done. As a matter of fact this is > has been delayed so much that at this point, even if we would fix > everything *right now*, this release would already be out of sync with > upstream. You can imagine that porting, updating and patching the same > packages over and over again is certainly frustrating. > > Next to that, Carrot and Coriander is a great relase and it would be a > pity to hack together a new version just for the sake of bumping the > version number. We would like to leave the community with a decent > soup as our final gift rather than something that could be potentially > substandard (OK you're supposed to serve gazpacho cold, but at the > moment it looks more like a garlicky tomato soup than the famous > Andalusian dish). > > Of course, we can talk in details about the technical issues we faced > in the development of Gazpacho, the growing commercialism of Ubuntu > and the general feeling, that grew amongst some of us in the last > years, that we should instead teach people to hack their own artistic > OS and tune it for their practice rather than provide a top-down > designed general purpose multimedia system. > > All these are valid points, yet there is something else to it, > something more profound to this decision. Puredyne has been around for > nearly a decade, it's time to let go of the project. > Nothing lasts forever, everybody moves one, interests shift, people > get jobs, get fired, resume their studies, have children (4 babies > were born in the dev group so far and another one is on the way), etc. > Life, really. > > Now, before closing the list it might be worth to mention two last things. > > First of all, Puredyne was built with a script called broth. It lives > on top of Debian's live tools. With this script it is possible to > build all sorts of Debian or Ubuntu live distros. Every now and then, > some of us have the need, for an installation, a workshop, a birthday > party, to quickly generate an audiovisual oriented live USB/DD/CD/DVD. > Broth is very handy for that, so that's why we will be still using it, > hence possibly developing it further whenever we need it (current > version lives here: https://launchpad.net/broth ). > > The second point concerns the community aspect of Puredyne. While > there is no point in keeping this list running, we want to ask you all > if you would be interested to join a new list to keep on > talking/discussing about the practice of free software related art, > music and design (get help on installing and using distros and free > software for artistic practices, but also a place to announce/present > your projects, look for collaborators, etc). No strings attached, just > an idea, but one that may be useful for users/former users of Puredyne > - based around our initial goal to support FLOSS + art practice for > ourselves and others, where we saw a gap that needed filling. Send a > mail off-list to puredyne-t...@goto10.org. If we get a few positive > responses we'll make a list and subscribe those who contacted us. > > I think that's it for now. > > Puredyne was a great project, we learned a lot, we had great fun. We > thank you all for supporting us and having been around all these > years. > > :* > --- > Puredyne@goto10.org > http://identi.ca/group/puredyne > irc://irc.goto10.org/puredyne >
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