well I catched up p:d at the end. it was it that made me uninstall mswin… so I'm very thankfull for existing!
I'm running fedora 16 with planet ccrma repos but it seems that their rt-kernel isn't working as good as it should on x86_64 or something like that… though I have no knowledge or whatsoever to say this but I'm enjoying fedora and it seems pretty stable! have you ever thought on a fedora based distro? On 07/02/2012, at 20:38, [email protected] wrote: > Send Puredyne mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.goto10.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/puredyne > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Puredyne digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: announcement from the Puredyne developers (olm-e) > 2. Re: announcement from the Puredyne developers (Julian Brooks) > 3. A New Beginning (Julian Brooks) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:55:32 +0100 > From: olm-e <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [puredyne] announcement from the Puredyne developers > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I would love to be part of that new list too, FLOSS + art is what I do > and is essential discussion nowadays (with war on copyrights + machine > as appliance , etc... ) > It's good to see life having an effect on coders (with good things like > babies... I have one too) > And it's interesting to focus on a modular system like broth wich could > open the community to other things. > looking forward to what is coming > > wish you the best and thanks you for the puredyne project, which was a > light in the dark . > > Olivier > ogeem.be > > > On 07/02/12 13:00, [email protected] wrote: >> Send Puredyne mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.goto10.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/puredyne >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Puredyne digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: announcement from the Puredyne developers (Geofroy Tremblay) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:26:50 -0500 >> From: Geofroy Tremblay <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [puredyne] announcement from the Puredyne developers >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed >> >> Dear Puredyne, >> >> It's interesting to read this email - since I just change my main >> computer to Debian over the weekend, and it was still running puredyne. >> (my audio computer still running puredyne thought) Looking at the last 4 >> years I realize how much I learned trough puredyne - and I have to say >> that, even though I used linux and ubuntu here and there before, it was >> puredyne that really charmed me - and the OS of choice when Apple wasn't >> apple anymore (about 3 years ago). >> >> Anyhow, the software was one part, the community was another part, >> creativity with computer was what sealed the deal ;) >> >> I would be really interested to be part of the next mail list and see >> where that lead us all - of course I would love to see a nice broth on >> Debian that include the main tools I use (puredata, fluxus,sc, >> processing, arduino, yeah I know java :S ) - some sort of puredyne with >> less complex maintenance (so I could be more of help) - bt I realize >> that even that is a lot of work! >> >> For the moment, I moved to a clean debian for my main machine, puredyne >> for the audio machine and Crunch Bang for my Dj gear (#! is quite a >> interesting community base distribution that worth checking out by the >> way) But I have been on the lookout for a puredyne type of system, which >> doesn't seem to exist :S >> >> Thank you for the community, Thank you Aymeric and the whole Dev team >> ;) the future seems promising :D >> >> >> On 06.02.2012 03:31, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: >>> Dear Dan, Puredyne community, >>> >>> I have been a pretty quiet reader of this list since a while. I manly >>> use debian these days. Always loved Puredyne, burning the iso popping >>> it in any machine and having all the (especially audio- in my case) >>> stuff I like. >>> I remember - now a few years ago - getting hold of a Puredyne iso >>> using my university's connection - hey don't tell enyone ;) - burning >>> it and thinking "wow multimedia on linux exists. and works" :) Many >>> things evolved since then... >>> Recently used it in a workshop about linux + music - (mac) people are >>> always positively surprised by this polished, full-working system >>> which 'just works' out of a CD. >>> >>> For what it may be worth, all I can personally add is a big thank you >>> to all the people who in a way or another contributed to this great >>> FLOSS + creativity project. And wish tham all the best for their >>> dreams, future, and art. >>> >>> Ciao, >>> Lorenzo. >>> PS: I would be very interested in the proposed FLOSS + art list. >>> >>> On 05/02/12 19:59, Dan S wrote: >>>> Dear Puredyne community, >>>> >>>> As you might have noticed, Puredyne's development has somewhat >>>> stalled >>>> with our latest release being Carrot and Coriander. While still >>>> working perfectly on most machines, this release is now pretty old. >>>> If >>>> you follow the list and IRC regularly you are aware that we have >>>> been >>>> working on a new version, Gazpacho, for a little while now, and got >>>> as >>>> far as an alpha release. >>>> >>>> This alpha release was our last soup. >>>> >>>> Truth is, some annoying bugs have held us back from releasing a new >>>> stable Puredyne, and we have been struggling to find the time, >>>> motivation and energy to get the job done. As a matter of fact this >>>> is >>>> has been delayed so much that at this point, even if we would fix >>>> everything *right now*, this release would already be out of sync >>>> with >>>> upstream. You can imagine that porting, updating and patching the >>>> same >>>> packages over and over again is certainly frustrating. >>>> >>>> Next to that, Carrot and Coriander is a great relase and it would be >>>> a >>>> pity to hack together a new version just for the sake of bumping the >>>> version number. We would like to leave the community with a decent >>>> soup as our final gift rather than something that could be >>>> potentially >>>> substandard (OK you're supposed to serve gazpacho cold, but at the >>>> moment it looks more like a garlicky tomato soup than the famous >>>> Andalusian dish). >>>> >>>> Of course, we can talk in details about the technical issues we >>>> faced >>>> in the development of Gazpacho, the growing commercialism of Ubuntu >>>> and the general feeling, that grew amongst some of us in the last >>>> years, that we should instead teach people to hack their own >>>> artistic >>>> OS and tune it for their practice rather than provide a top-down >>>> designed general purpose multimedia system. >>>> >>>> All these are valid points, yet there is something else to it, >>>> something more profound to this decision. Puredyne has been around >>>> for >>>> nearly a decade, it's time to let go of the project. >>>> Nothing lasts forever, everybody moves one, interests shift, people >>>> get jobs, get fired, resume their studies, have children (4 babies >>>> were born in the dev group so far and another one is on the way), >>>> etc. >>>> Life, really. >>>> >>>> Now, before closing the list it might be worth to mention two last >>>> things. >>>> >>>> First of all, Puredyne was built with a script called broth. It >>>> lives >>>> on top of Debian's live tools. With this script it is possible to >>>> build all sorts of Debian or Ubuntu live distros. Every now and >>>> then, >>>> some of us have the need, for an installation, a workshop, a >>>> birthday >>>> party, to quickly generate an audiovisual oriented live >>>> USB/DD/CD/DVD. >>>> Broth is very handy for that, so that's why we will be still using >>>> it, >>>> hence possibly developing it further whenever we need it (current >>>> version lives here: https://launchpad.net/broth ). >>>> >>>> The second point concerns the community aspect of Puredyne. While >>>> there is no point in keeping this list running, we want to ask you >>>> all >>>> if you would be interested to join a new list to keep on >>>> talking/discussing about the practice of free software related art, >>>> music and design (get help on installing and using distros and free >>>> software for artistic practices, but also a place to >>>> announce/present >>>> your projects, look for collaborators, etc). No strings attached, >>>> just >>>> an idea, but one that may be useful for users/former users of >>>> Puredyne >>>> - based around our initial goal to support FLOSS + art practice for >>>> ourselves and others, where we saw a gap that needed filling. Send a >>>> mail off-list to [email protected]. If we get a few positive >>>> responses we'll make a list and subscribe those who contacted us. >>>> >>>> I think that's it for now. >>>> >>>> Puredyne was a great project, we learned a lot, we had great fun. We >>>> thank you all for supporting us and having been around all these >>>> years. >>>> >>>> :* >>>> --- >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://identi.ca/group/puredyne >>>> irc://irc.goto10.org/puredyne >>> --- >>> [email protected] >>> http://identi.ca/group/puredyne >>> irc://irc.goto10.org/puredyne >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Puredyne mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.goto10.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/puredyne >> >> End of Puredyne Digest, Vol 81, Issue 5 >> *************************************** >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 19:53:08 +0000 > From: Julian Brooks <[email protected]> > To: puredyne <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [puredyne] announcement from the Puredyne developers > Message-ID: > <cagembfqqbn4x8aowpq+dsczy9u7qhnhwnqcpis2tbnrttjt...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > HI Dan & all Puredyne/GOTO10 people, > > Well bloody hell, it certainly does feel like the end of an era. > > I too was hooked, from the moment the skull & crossbones popped out of my > knackered old laptop with the old dynebolic build, 'yep - that's the one > for me' I thought. It's been great, truly. > > Even recently I spent a really frustrating month in a fancy-dan AV suite > wrestling with FCP. Aargh, 'twas grim. Ended up making lo-res versions of > the various video files and did it at home with Kdenlive. I didn't even > know what Kdenlive was (had no use for it previously) but there it was, a > right-click and scroll away, just waiting. So in that sense I will miss > having some quality tools tucked away in my > all-purpose-techno-guerrilla-bag'o'tricks. > > Also guess that C&C will be now become a future classic. I'm gonna d/l a > fresh copy for safekeeping. > > Couple of questions: > When the list goes will the archive still be up somewhere (I would think it > will have its uses)? > > Who's writing or applying for some cash to do some writing up of the > various ins and outs that have happened within Puredyne over the last > decade? 'Cos it's a cracking bodice-ripper/whodunnit of a story I bet! No > but really. > > I've had so much help from so many people over the years (I still think of > myself as a newbie in all of the nitty gritty stuff tbh - perhaps that's a > healthy approach, there's always someone more knowledgeable than you, > except this time they are quite often more than willing to share. What a > wonderful attitude. > > For all the Pure Data I would like to thank Aymeric, Claude and Chun. > Their approach to packaging vanilla plus externals was bang-on. I do think > there is less of a gulf these days between Pd and PdE, and a lot of that is > because from where I'm sitting PdE has moved over this way in its > approach. Maybe that's the way it was heading anyway but Puredyne seemed > to be doing it first. The 0xA e.p. was fantastic, FLOSS & Art book too, > plus the 'free as in beer' beer. Can't overestimate that it sounded like a > laugh as well. > > Well done all. > > Very best wishes, > > Julian > > > On 5 February 2012 19:59, Dan S <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear Puredyne community, >> >> As you might have noticed, Puredyne's development has somewhat stalled >> with our latest release being Carrot and Coriander. While still >> working perfectly on most machines, this release is now pretty old. If >> you follow the list and IRC regularly you are aware that we have been >> working on a new version, Gazpacho, for a little while now, and got as >> far as an alpha release. >> >> This alpha release was our last soup. >> >> Truth is, some annoying bugs have held us back from releasing a new >> stable Puredyne, and we have been struggling to find the time, >> motivation and energy to get the job done. As a matter of fact this is >> has been delayed so much that at this point, even if we would fix >> everything *right now*, this release would already be out of sync with >> upstream. You can imagine that porting, updating and patching the same >> packages over and over again is certainly frustrating. >> >> Next to that, Carrot and Coriander is a great relase and it would be a >> pity to hack together a new version just for the sake of bumping the >> version number. We would like to leave the community with a decent >> soup as our final gift rather than something that could be potentially >> substandard (OK you're supposed to serve gazpacho cold, but at the >> moment it looks more like a garlicky tomato soup than the famous >> Andalusian dish). >> >> Of course, we can talk in details about the technical issues we faced >> in the development of Gazpacho, the growing commercialism of Ubuntu >> and the general feeling, that grew amongst some of us in the last >> years, that we should instead teach people to hack their own artistic >> OS and tune it for their practice rather than provide a top-down >> designed general purpose multimedia system. >> >> All these are valid points, yet there is something else to it, >> something more profound to this decision. Puredyne has been around for >> nearly a decade, it's time to let go of the project. >> Nothing lasts forever, everybody moves one, interests shift, people >> get jobs, get fired, resume their studies, have children (4 babies >> were born in the dev group so far and another one is on the way), etc. >> Life, really. >> >> Now, before closing the list it might be worth to mention two last things. >> >> First of all, Puredyne was built with a script called broth. It lives >> on top of Debian's live tools. With this script it is possible to >> build all sorts of Debian or Ubuntu live distros. Every now and then, >> some of us have the need, for an installation, a workshop, a birthday >> party, to quickly generate an audiovisual oriented live USB/DD/CD/DVD. >> Broth is very handy for that, so that's why we will be still using it, >> hence possibly developing it further whenever we need it (current >> version lives here: https://launchpad.net/broth ). >> >> The second point concerns the community aspect of Puredyne. While >> there is no point in keeping this list running, we want to ask you all >> if you would be interested to join a new list to keep on >> talking/discussing about the practice of free software related art, >> music and design (get help on installing and using distros and free >> software for artistic practices, but also a place to announce/present >> your projects, look for collaborators, etc). No strings attached, just >> an idea, but one that may be useful for users/former users of Puredyne >> - based around our initial goal to support FLOSS + art practice for >> ourselves and others, where we saw a gap that needed filling. Send a >> mail off-list to [email protected]. If we get a few positive >> responses we'll make a list and subscribe those who contacted us. >> >> I think that's it for now. >> >> Puredyne was a great project, we learned a lot, we had great fun. We >> thank you all for supporting us and having been around all these >> years. >> >> :* >> --- >> [email protected] >> http://identi.ca/group/puredyne >> irc://irc.goto10.org/puredyne >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.goto10.org/pipermail/puredyne/attachments/20120207/5e968fe8/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 20:07:56 +0000 > From: Julian Brooks <[email protected]> > To: "p:d" <[email protected]> > Subject: [puredyne] A New Beginning > Message-ID: > <cagembfrr4yfg7pwgcfu8kdpwxzt8adwanxx81iczbsy68vu...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Erm, now what? > > What is the general consensus of where to go next... > > I'm guessing that people are thinking of building on top of a minimal > debian type thing? Some of my fellow laptoppers are really into Arch for > example, though they seem to be under the hood on a regular and critical > basis. > > Any recommendations for audio based work? I have also been thinking > recently about having something Puredyne-like as a general system and then > another install just for music - which for me is basically Pure Data, Jack > too I guess. > > Saying that though it's never quite that simple is it. I like the > occasional sensor and of course some network music can be fun (ethernet & > wireless)...and on it goes. > > It was a goal of mine to do some building from source recently and I was > chuffed to pieces that I got some things to work, kind of. There is a > definite sense of achievement when it goes and of course I want to maximise > the resources that are available to me computing wise. I also have a > fairly bashed in Puredyne install atm that is in need of rescuing, > unfortunately I seem to have a ton of stuff that places greater demands on > my available time (me & my lovely wife have 6 kids between us - go > figure:) You may note I haven't been offering my skills(ho ho) for > Puredyne dev work either. > > Anyways, would be great to canvas some opinion and pointers from anyone who > can be bothered responding. > > Cheers, > > Julian > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.goto10.org/pipermail/puredyne/attachments/20120207/78b8bc06/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Puredyne mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.goto10.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/puredyne > > End of Puredyne Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 > *************************************** --- [email protected] http://identi.ca/group/puredyne irc://irc.goto10.org/puredyne
