I wonder if that would help to solve above problems? 

>>And what performance would be get? 

I'm a bit worried about veth performance, all benchmarks I have see show around 
4gbit/s.

and with vmbr0<-->vethXXXiY<-->fwbrXXXiY<-->tapXXXiY, that's mean that 2 taps 
in the same brige/vlan, show communicate through 2 veth.

So maybe performance impact is bigger than have a lot of rules.

>>1.) I does not work 100% out of the box (needs veth hack). Difficult to 
>>explain to users. 
yes indeed

>>2.) iptables chains grows if we have many VM (clumsy) 
I'm not I'll be different, because you need to parse all tap chains to find the 
good one.
in 1 direction only, but it need to done twice, for each bridge

>>3.) does not work with OVS 
well, for ovs + tapbridge, it's working fine now ;)


>>Also note that we do not need to enable netfilter on vmbr0 with this setup. 
>>so we can
>>completely exclude VMs from using the firewall (such VM won't notice a 
>>performance
>>penalty).
do you wan to plug vm without firewall directly on vmbr0 ?
Or is it possible to disable netfilter on a specific fwbrXXXiY ?



But, we have also ovs now, so maybe users could choose ovs, if they want more 
performance.


----- Mail original ----- 

De: "Dietmar Maurer" <[email protected]> 
À: "Alexandre Derumier" <[email protected]>, [email protected] 
Envoyé: Mercredi 23 Avril 2014 08:57:51 
Objet: RE: [pve-devel] [PATCH] openvswitch hybrid network model implementation 

Hi Alexandre, 

to be honest, I am also not particularly happy with the current linux bridge 
based 
implementation, because 

1.) I does not work 100% out of the box (needs veth hack). Difficult to explain 
to users. 
2.) iptables chains grows if we have many VM (clumsy) 
3.) does not work with OVS 

So I wonder if we could use a similar approach for linux bridge instead? 
We currently have: 

veth0<-->vmbr0<-->tapXXXiY 

vmbr0<-->vethXXXiY<-->fwbrXXXiY<-->tapXXXiY 

I wonder if that would help to solve above problems? And what performance would 
be get? 
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