On Feb 28, 2007, at 6:54 AM, Phil Carns wrote:

I know that you guys still have some ongoing discussion about the long
range design for tracking handles, but I have another item about the
current implementation that might be of interest.

Most of the remaining startup performance problem (after Sam's
optimization patches) appears to be a result of how the db is ordered.
If I modify the attr db's comparison function so that it has a "<"
rather than ">", then all of the preads during startup go in order
through the db rather than backwards. This takes the startup time on a cold db down to just 34 seconds. Previously it was 2 minutes 22 seconds.

It still could be faster, but that seems to be the biggest part of the
time. I imagine the rest of it is just the access size (4 KB at a time) that might be tunable through some berkeley db settings.

The downside of making that particular change to the comparison method is that it breaks storage space compatibility.

I wonder if it might be possible to accomplish the same thing in the
current db format by modifying iterate_handles() to just run the cursor
backwards (using DB_PREV instead of DB_NEXT)?  That wouldn't hurt
storage space compability (if it works), but I don't know if it makes any difference to callers of that function what order the handles come out in.

It doesn't matter to the caller. You'll also need to set the cursor to the last position in the db with DB_LAST. Does DB_PREV work with DB_MULTIPLE though? Its not clear from the above, does the improvement to 34 seconds occur with MULTIPLE or without?

I mentioned previously that the dspace db gets opened with the RECNUM flag. I don't think that's necessary, and removing it will invariably improve performance, but we need a way to return the position for iterate_handles. The easiest thing to do is turn PVFS_ds_position into a uint64_t (currently its only uint32_t). That breaks interfaces and protocols though.

-sam



-Phil


Phil Carns wrote:
Phil Carns wrote:
Yeah that is odd. Setting the cursor for each call to iterate_handles may be the reason for it starting over. Do you know how many times it starts over? The number of times iterate_handles is called will be (# of files / 4096).



It only goes through the file twice if I am looking at the log correctly. Also, I just realized that on both passes (the one jumping backwards 40KB at a time and the one jumping backwards 4KB at a time) it is only reading 4KB per pread. I don't know what it is doing from a db point of view, but from an access point of view it looks like it goes backwards with a strided pattern and then goes backwards reading the entire thing. There are some other reads scattered here and there, but those two cycles represent the overwhelming majority of the total preads in the strace file. By spot checking I don't really see any significant divergence from the patterns.

It also just occurred to me that maybe I should repeat the strace and try to capture it with timestamps; I'm not really sure if both of these pread cycles are actually during the scan or not.

I just double checked- both of those big pread cycles are happening after this message is logged: [D 13:06:53.916769] dbpf collection 752900094 - Setting collection handle ranges to 4-536870914,4294967292-4831838202 ... but before the next message. So they do appear to both be a result of the handle scanning on startup.
-Phil



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