I can reproduce it fairly reliably with my test case; I average somewhere
around a 50% chance of generating one or more of these files per test. My
preliminary testing with db 4.8.30 is encouraging. I will update this thread
with any conclusions.

Bart.



On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Phil Carns <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>  Removing the metadata object for a file does indeed produce the same
>> symptoms we are seeing. It produces a similar effect on 2.8 as well. I
>> believe I was working with Sam and possibly you on this a few weeks ago but
>> had to drop it for something more urgent. Our conversation can be found
>> here:
>>
>>
>> http://www.beowulf-underground.org/pipermail/pvfs2-developers/2010-June/004605.html
>>
>> In 2.8, pvfs2-rm does not currently remove the file entries. Sam had the
>> same ENOTENT fix for 2.8. After creating a file and removing the metadata
>> object, it allows the file entry to be removed.
>>
>
> Ah!  Believe it or not I had forgotten about that thread, but Sam's fix
> must have stuck in my head subconsciously because I figured out where to add
> that check in 2.6 pretty quickly :)
>
> We need to get this fix into cvs if it isn't there already...
>
>
>  I believe Jim Kusznir may have been experiencing similar issues when he
>> posted to the Users list here:
>>
>>
>> http://www.beowulf-underground.org/pipermail/pvfs2-users/2010-September/003186.html
>>
>> It appears that something is still triggering this issue in 2.8. Based on
>> my own anecdotal evidence with 2.6 and 2.8, it looks like it can happen when
>> a file system is getting hammered with creates and/or deletes. My test case
>> to reproduce on 2.8 involved several threads executing a script that
>> creates, opens, writes, and then deletes a file many thousands of times. The
>> problems we have had on 2.6 also correlate to heavy loads of file creations
>> and deletions.
>>
>> Anyone have thoughts on why some files are getting left without their
>> metadata object?
>>
>> Bart.
>>
>
> I think Becky had some good ideas.  How hard is this to reproduce?  Can you
> do it pretty reliably with your test case?
>
> -Phil
>
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