Good idea, Mark. Another test along these lines would be to open up a
telnet client and try to telnet to yourself. Do you correctly get a
"connection refused", or do you get some other error like "network not
present"? Windows 98 has an aweful telnet client that can be run by
doing Start->Run...->"telnet".
Lex
Mark Guzdial <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> My guess is that your network isn't working from Squeak at all. (I'm
> sending this to the PWS list to see if anyone there has had this
> problem.) Will Scamper work from your Squeak? Rather than
> "localhost" why not use the Host's name? Do a PrintIt on the below
> to get your name (from Squeak -- once you have networking working
> there):
>
> NetNameResolver nameForAddress: (NetNameResolver localHostAddress)
> timeout: 30).
>
>
> At 10:12 PM -0500 2/29/00, David Mitchell wrote:
> >I had originally sent this to Bolot. Since I think I am following the steps
> >correctly, I thought I would see what you thought.
> >
> >I started with FourStrongWinds.zip and added it to a clean 2.7 image. The
> >directory structure looks like this
> >C:
> >|+Program Files
> > |+Squeak (an containing only Squeak folders, no images or changes)
> > |+Comanche (this contains the Squeak image, changes, etc.)
> > |-Squeak.exe
> > |-Squeak.ini
> > |-Squeak.7.image (this is the image into which I filed in Com34Swiki9.cs)
> > |-(etc.)
> > |+swiki
> > |+admin
> > |+default
> > |+docs
> > |+forward
> > |+refs
> > |+Com34Swiki9.cs
> > |+ReadMe.txt
> >
> >I was able to start the image, open the GUI, and start the server. I wasn't
> >sure what URL I was supposed to hit, but I did try http://localhost/ and got
> >a dialog from IE (Internet Explorer cannot open the internet site
> >http://localhost/. The connection with the server was reset.). I was hoping
> >to get a list of Swikis, in particular, the admin swiki.
> >
> >I tried stopping and starting the server and switching ports (and the
> >corresponding URL), to no avail. I usually run a PWS swiki on this laptop
> >(but I was not trying that concurrently.
> >
> >Any thoughts?
> >
> >BTW. I am running Windows 98 (4.10.1998) on a Gateway Solo laptop (PII
> >233MHz) with 64MB RAM. I tried hitting the server with IE 4.72.3110 (128bit
> >encrypt). I also tried hitting it using Scamper but it simiply reported a
> >primitive failure. (I am not sure that localhost is valid from Scamper,
> >however.)
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >--David Mitchell
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: David Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 9:44 PM
> >To: Bolot Kerimbaev
> >Subject: RE: Comanche mailing list
> >
> >
> >Thanks. I actually think the doc was pretty good (I do look forward to your
> >future works, however). As a former technical writer, I appreciate the
> >difficulty of creating good doc.
> >
> >I had actually downloaded the Swiki (FourStrongWinds.zip) and followed the
> >readme therein. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something
> >simple. I think my problem might be a bug. I'll follow up with
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >David Mitchell
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bolot Kerimbaev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 12:51 AM
> > > To: David Mitchell
> > > Subject: RE: Comanche mailing list
> > >
> > >
> > > Good criticism (lack of documentation on Comanche), I should take action
> > > very soon. I'm writing a paper (for WebNet conference) and a section for
> > > Squeak edited volume (editors Mark Guzdial and Kim Rose), will spend
> > > some time writing docs and readmes.
> > >
> > > If you downloaded the Swiki (http://seaweed.cc.gatech.edu/docs), things
> > > should be easier:
> > > - extract the zip file
> > > - you should have the 'swiki' directory in your Squeak folder
> > > - ComSwikiLauncher openAsMorph "do this"
> > > - click on the port button until your desired port number shows up
> > > (there are a few preselected ones, I believe)
> > > - click on 'start' button
> > > - go to http://localhost/ (or whatever port you used)
> > > - this will list swikis on your server
> > > - there should be 'admin' swiki...
> > > it's brand new (came with today's version of Swiki)
> > >
> > > Jochen "Je77" Rick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is the person who develops the
> > > Swikis.
> > >
> > > If you have issues/bugs you should write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > You may also want to subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED], since there's quite
> > > a bit of swiki community there (they too can help).
> > >
> > > In the nearest future I'll make it simpler to create your own Comanche
> > > application (e.g., conceal some unnecessary details, and just let you
> > > play with the defaults, to get started).
> > >
> > > bolot
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 27 Feb 2000, David Mitchell wrote:
> > >
> > > > I keep a PWS swiki on my laptop (mostly as a scratchpad). I've
> > > > thought several times about jumping to Comanche and this thread
> > > > finally made me get the code. After browsing the classes for a few
> > > > hours I think it looks very clean. I especially like all of the TODO
> > > > comments! ;-)
> > > >
> > > > I am sorry to trouble you with something so trivial, but...
> > > >
> > > > I followed the instructions in the ReadMe and I think I did
> > > > everything correctly. I read everything I could find at
> > > > commanche.swiki.net. I also looked through the changeset header and
> > > > most of the class comments. But I couldn't find the little bit of
> > > > info I needed to proceed.
> > > >
> > > > What URL do I use to hit the admin swiki so I can set up a new
> > > > swiki? In my old PWS swiki, I used:
> > > >
> > > > http://localhost/clest.1
> > > >
> > > > Where clest was the swiki name (for Cleveland Smalltalk).
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any help,
> > > >
> > > > David Mitchell
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
> --------------------------
> Mark Guzdial : Georgia Tech : College of Computing : Atlanta, GA 30332-0280
> (404) 894-5618 : Fax (404) 894-0673 : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.cc.gatech.edu/gvu/people/Faculty/Mark.Guzdial.html
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> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> My guess is that your network isn't working from Squeak at all. (I'm
> sending this to the PWS list to see if anyone there has had this
> problem.) Will Scamper work from your Squeak? Rather than "localhost"
> why not use the Host's name? Do a PrintIt on the below to get your
> name (from Squeak -- once you have networking working there):
>
>
> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><bigger><bigger><bigger><bigger><bigger>NetN=
> ameResolver
> nameForAddress: (NetNameResolver localHostAddress) timeout: 30).
>
>
>
> </bigger></bigger></bigger></bigger></bigger></fontfamily>At 10:12 PM
> -0500 2/29/00, David Mitchell wrote:
>
> <excerpt>I had originally sent this to Bolot. Since I think I am
> following the steps
>
> correctly, I thought I would see what you thought.
>
>
> I started with FourStrongWinds.zip and added it to a clean 2.7 image.
> The
>
> directory structure looks like this
>
> C:
>
> |+Program Files
>
> |+Squeak (an containing only Squeak folders, no images or changes)
>
> |+Comanche (this contains the Squeak image, changes, etc.)
>
> |-Squeak.exe
>
> |-Squeak.ini
>
> |-Squeak.7.image (this is the image into which I filed in
> Com34Swiki9.cs)
>
> |-(etc.)
>
> |+swiki
>
> |+admin
>
> |+default
>
> |+docs
>
> |+forward
>
> |+refs
>
> |+Com34Swiki9.cs
>
> |+ReadMe.txt
>
>
> I was able to start the image, open the GUI, and start the server. I
> wasn't
>
> sure what URL I was supposed to hit, but I did try http://localhost/
> and got
>
> a dialog from IE (Internet Explorer cannot open the internet site
>
> http://localhost/. The connection with the server was reset.). I was
> hoping
>
> to get a list of Swikis, in particular, the admin swiki.
>
>
> I tried stopping and starting the server and switching ports (and the
>
> corresponding URL), to no avail. I usually run a PWS swiki on this
> laptop
>
> (but I was not trying that concurrently.
>
>
> Any thoughts?
>
>
> BTW. I am running Windows 98 (4.10.1998) on a Gateway Solo laptop (PII
>
> 233MHz) with 64MB RAM. I tried hitting the server with IE 4.72.3110
> (128bit
>
> encrypt). I also tried hitting it using Scamper but it simiply reported
> a
>
> primitive failure. (I am not sure that localhost is valid from
> Scamper,
>
> however.)
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> --David Mitchell
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> =46rom: David Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 9:44 PM
>
> To: Bolot Kerimbaev
>
> Subject: RE: Comanche mailing list
>
>
>
> Thanks. I actually think the doc was pretty good (I do look forward to
> your
>
> future works, however). As a former technical writer, I appreciate the
>
> difficulty of creating good doc.
>
>
> I had actually downloaded the Swiki (FourStrongWinds.zip) and followed
> the
>
> readme therein. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something
>
> simple. I think my problem might be a bug. I'll follow up with
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> David Mitchell
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
>
> > From: Bolot Kerimbaev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 12:51 AM
>
> > To: David Mitchell
>
> > Subject: RE: Comanche mailing list
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Good criticism (lack of documentation on Comanche), I should take
> action
>
> > very soon. I'm writing a paper (for WebNet conference) and a section
> for
>
> > Squeak edited volume (editors Mark Guzdial and Kim Rose), will spend
>
> > some time writing docs and readmes.
>
> >
>
> > If you downloaded the Swiki (http://seaweed.cc.gatech.edu/docs),
> things
>
> > should be easier:
>
> > - extract the zip file
>
> > - you should have the 'swiki' directory in your Squeak folder
>
> > - ComSwikiLauncher openAsMorph "do this"
>
> > - click on the port button until your desired port number shows up
>
> > (there are a few preselected ones, I believe)
>
> > - click on 'start' button
>
> > - go to http://localhost/ (or whatever port you used)
>
> > - this will list swikis on your server
>
> > - there should be 'admin' swiki...
>
> > it's brand new (came with today's version of Swiki)
>
> >
>
> > Jochen "Je77" Rick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is the person who develops
> the
>
> > Swikis.
>
> >
>
> > If you have issues/bugs you should write to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > You may also want to subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED], since there's
> quite
>
> > a bit of swiki community there (they too can help).
>
> >
>
> > In the nearest future I'll make it simpler to create your own
> Comanche
>
> > application (e.g., conceal some unnecessary details, and just let
> you
>
> > play with the defaults, to get started).
>
> >
>
> > bolot
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On Sun, 27 Feb 2000, David Mitchell wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > I keep a PWS swiki on my laptop (mostly as a scratchpad). I've
>
> > > thought several times about jumping to Comanche and this thread
>
> > > finally made me get the code. After browsing the classes for a few
>
> > > hours I think it looks very clean. I especially like all of the
> TODO
>
> > > comments! ;-)
>
> > >
>
> > > I am sorry to trouble you with something so trivial, but...
>
> > >
>
> > > I followed the instructions in the ReadMe and I think I did
>
> > > everything correctly. I read everything I could find at
>
> > > commanche.swiki.net. I also looked through the changeset header
> and
>
> > > most of the class comments. But I couldn't find the little bit of
>
> > > info I needed to proceed.
>
> > >
>
> > > What URL do I use to hit the admin swiki so I can set up a new
>
> > > swiki? In my old PWS swiki, I used:
>
> > >
>
> > > http://localhost/clest.1
>
> > >
>
> > > Where clest was the swiki name (for Cleveland Smalltalk).
>
> > >
>
> > > Thanks for any help,
>
> > >
>
> > > David Mitchell
>
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> </excerpt>
>
> --------------------------
>
> Mark Guzdial : Georgia Tech : College of Computing : Atlanta, GA 30332-0280
>
> (404) 894-5618 : Fax (404) 894-0673 : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> http://www.cc.gatech.edu/gvu/people/Faculty/Mark.Guzdial.html
>
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