>Oh "PackRat", do you happen to have the version that has *contents*? :)
>
>(Scary: you have a three year old file WITH NOTHING IN IT lying around, and
>you can get at it easily :))

I'm so embarrassed! <sigh>

No, the file doesn't seem to exist anywhere.  However, that doesn't 
meant that the comment space is broken.  Visit 
http://guzdial.cc.gatech.edu:8080/comment.fred  The comment tool 
works fine -- WITHOUT the template.


>
>As for size, my current toy Server folder is about 18k uncompressed, so I
>don't think it's that big a deal. The other possibility is to make a helper
>class that can write out the Server files/structure and file *that* out.
>That way, one isn't dependant on outside of Squeak tool. Heck, if one
>wanted to be clever, one could put that class on an update server, and have
>PWS>>initializeAll fetch the update first. That way, only folks who wanted
>to use PWS would get the "bloat", but they'd have the ability to generate a
>fresh Server file with easy.

Sure -- both sound reasonable (include, or just auto-fetch from a server).

>
>Indeed, this is only a marginal simplificaiton for the sake of history.
>Today, I think that the use of SSP for templates would be far superior (you
>get versioning). Plus, for all but the most trivial apps, you'd want to
>cache the formatter.

Why?  Is template formatting that slow?

>
>Which reminds me (while I'm at it): Do the GATech Squeaker want to host a
>stop of the Squeak World tour?
>        http://wiki.cs.uiuc.edu/CampSmalltalk/Squeak+World+Tour
>
>It might be especially neat to focus on a networking clean up. If Craig
>Latta, John McIntosh, John Maloney, et al were to come (or some sutible
>fraction of them) it could give the rather heterogenous and aging squeak
>networking stuff a good push.

The Squeak networking code is aging?  I thought JMM just updated a 
whole bunch of stuff?

Hmm -- I hadn't even given it a thought yet.  It's certainly a 
possibility.  I'll bounce it off the rest of the Squeakers.  I'm not 
immediately yelling "Yes! Yes! Yes!" simply because our (my and my 
sense of the rest of the GaTech Squeakers) goals are pretty different 
than what I've seen of Camp Smalltalk so far.  Issues of modular 
Squeak and more commercially viable Squeak are interesting and 
important, just not up our alley.  Right now, I'm much more 
concerned-with/interested-in things like the improvements to 
Morphic's UI, the lack of composition tools (I want to be able to 
create MIDI and Flash files from within Squeak), Squeak-based mail, 
and making the SuperSwiki (MuSwiki based on projects).

Mark

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