On Sun, 19 May 2002, Andreas Raab wrote:

> Hi Folks,
> 
> I've often found myself wanting to build basically entire Swiki books
> right from Squeak without having to resort to a browser. While it's nice
> that anyone can edit these pages "just" using the browser I'd rather
> have some sort of local editor where I can just type text, add emphasis,
> drop in morphs etc.

Indeed.

> In short, I hate this idea of an "editing mode" -
> it's so countrary to all of Squeaks goals.

Hmm. But it *is* practical in many cases :)

> So I was wondering: How much of an effort would it be to provide
> something like a "swiki book editor" that does exactly that - namely
> just giving you a text editor which you can use to edit stuff and then
> translate its contents into "swiki terms" so that they can be uploaded
> accordingly.

The biggest bit would be dealing with arbitrary HTML, if you allowed
that. If you deal with a more restrictive syntax, it would be much much
easier.

And even that isn't tough if you don't have people adding arbitrary HTML
from the "edit mode" interface.

> Anyone ever thought about this?!

Indeed. For PWS swiki I had an in squeak swiki editor that used
SwikiSyntax (i.e., an edit mode). Worked great.

Roger Whitney's XP class developed ObjectWeb which is pretty much a
Morphic Swiki, but, IIRC, they were more focused on sharing morphs than
generating text.

Cheers,
Bijan Parsia.

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