On 31/08/05, Daniel Henninger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What clients are you aware of that support it? Psi w/patches is what I'm > using. I recall someone saying Tkabber. Anything else? Also anyone > aware of clients that are implementing it "in their next release" or > "soon"? The only one for certain, would be the Psi-Rc that I got working. More clients will come with support, as more transports offer the functionality. It's way to chicken/egg for my liking, so I'm trying to offset the balance, and 'force'? client developers into implementing this functionality.
> Simple username/password Basic auth interface. Does not tie into anything > on the jabber side of the world. Ideally it should be SSL'd, but I > haven't gotten around to investigating that. If I figure that out, I'm > likely to forfeit non-SSL. ssl = good, helps stop the plaintext sniffing that basic is open to. > Time I'd rather spend on new features or bug fixes. ;) 100% agreeed here. > nevow, I doubt, wants to add a potential requirement to have > Twisted Words installed. agreed, it would be silly > Anyway, keep in mind that I haven't even touched adding the commands to > the web interface yet. I may get to a point where I decide my only > feasible option is to abtract it. But my focus here is to get some of the > commands to be accessible in the web interface, not invent some new > behind-the-scenes mechanisms. mmm, as it stands, only really the admin single stage commands are a viable option for the web interface, that's fine. > > I guess the xmpp framework is authorised by the jid and the fact that > > you trust the server, on the http side you could check that supplied > > legacy account name or jid, and password match the registered values. > > (although this means you have to have registered with a legacy account > > to admin the service too, unless you already have admin password > > functionality) > > But that still means I have to log the user in via the web interface, > something I'm not aiming to do. If I do that, the next thing I'm going to > hear is "why don't you implement a chat engine from the web interface" and > at that point, what's the point of involving Jabber at all? I don't > really want to get into the business of slowly implementing a web based > AIM/ICQ client so I'm going to stick with non-user-centric things in the > web interface. agreed, leave this to someone else. > In fact, instead of having PyAIM do all of this, I'd rather see a good web > based Jabber client written separately that can do ad-hoc commands and > such. Then a user could simply log in via that, normal Jabber session, > and do what they want. The commands I'm putting in the web interface are > meant for the server admin(s) only. I'll be treating any web interface as a temporary solution for those cretins who don't have a client that supports AdHoc yet :-P i.e. please make sure that whatever you can do in the web interface, can be done via AdHoc, which i'm sure you were going to do anyways. -- - Norman Rasmussen - Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Home page: http://norman.rasmussen.co.za/ From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Aug 31 15:41:21 2005 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Magnus Henoch) Date: Wed Aug 31 15:41:12 2005 Subject: [py-transports] PyAIM/ICQ musings In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Daniel Henninger's message of "Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:20:12 -0400 (EDT)") References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Daniel Henninger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What clients are you aware of that support it? Psi w/patches is what I'm > using. I recall someone saying Tkabber. Anything else? Also anyone > aware of clients that are implementing it "in their next release" or > "soon"? jabber.el supports it as well. Magnus From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Aug 31 16:55:19 2005 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sander Devrieze) Date: Wed Aug 31 16:55:22 2005 Subject: [py-transports] PyAIM/ICQ musings In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Op woensdag 31 augustus 2005 16:20, schreef Daniel Henninger: <snip> > > Yea, AdHoc is pretty cool. There are pretty much no limits. > > What clients are you aware of that support it? Psi w/patches is what I'm > using. I recall someone saying Tkabber. Anything else? Also anyone > aware of clients that are implementing it "in their next release" or > "soon"? I requested it for Coccinella: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1224746&group_id=68334&atid=520863 <snip> > In fact, instead of having PyAIM do all of this, I'd rather see a good web > based Jabber client written separately that can do ad-hoc commands and > such. Then a user could simply log in via that, normal Jabber session, > and do what they want. The commands I'm putting in the web interface are > meant for the server admin(s) only. I requested this already for JWChat: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1226140&group_id=92011&atid=599215 -- Mvg, Sander Devrieze. xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( http://jabber.tk/ ) From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Aug 31 17:24:40 2005 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel Henninger) Date: Wed Aug 31 17:24:41 2005 Subject: [py-transports] PyAIM/ICQ musings In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =D Yay!! and Yay!! Daniel -- "The most addictive drug in the world is music." - The Lost Boyz > Op woensdag 31 augustus 2005 16:20, schreef Daniel Henninger: > <snip> >> > Yea, AdHoc is pretty cool. There are pretty much no limits. >> >> What clients are you aware of that support it? Psi w/patches is what >> I'm >> using. I recall someone saying Tkabber. Anything else? Also anyone >> aware of clients that are implementing it "in their next release" or >> "soon"? > > I requested it for Coccinella: > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1224746&group_id=68334&atid=520863 > > <snip> > >> In fact, instead of having PyAIM do all of this, I'd rather see a good >> web >> based Jabber client written separately that can do ad-hoc commands and >> such. Then a user could simply log in via that, normal Jabber session, >> and do what they want. The commands I'm putting in the web interface >> are >> meant for the server admin(s) only. > > I requested this already for JWChat: > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1226140&group_id=92011&atid=599215 > > -- > Mvg, Sander Devrieze. > > xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( http://jabber.tk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > py-transports mailing list > py-transports@blathersource.org > http://www.modevia.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/py-transports > > >