On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:01, M.-A. Lemburg <m...@egenix.com> wrote: > anatoly techtonik wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Radomir Dopieralski >> <sh...@sheep.art.pl>wrote: >>> >>> On Dec 2, 2011 11:07 AM, "M.-A. Lemburg" <m...@egenix.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Radomir Dopieralski wrote: >>>>> On Dec 2, 2011 10:12 AM, "M.-A. Lemburg" <m...@egenix.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Paul Boddie wrote: >>>>>>> On Friday 02 December 2011 03:00:29 s...@pobox.com wrote: >>>>>>>> anatoly> And it could be a little easier to type >>>>>>>> wiki.python.org/MelbournePUG if mysterious somebody >>>>>>>> anatoly> could adjust web-server configuration accordingly. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There's another layer in the URL which distinguishes the Python and >>>>>>>> Jython wikis. At least there used to be. Now I see the selector >>> page >>>>>>>> briefly, then it redirects me to the last page I was viewing on the >>>>>>>> Python wiki. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, I think there was a discussion about this: in principle, it >>> makes >>>>>>> sense to eliminate the "/moin" part, and I guess that this was >>> changed. >>>>>>> I must admit that I haven't been following this list for some time, >>> so I'm >>>>>>> sorry if I'm not up-to-date with what people have been doing. >>>>>> >>>>>> The /moin part is still there and AFAIK is needed, since there are >>>>>> several instances of moin running on the wiki.python.org domain: >>>>>> >>>>>> * Python wiki >>>>>> * Jython wiki >>>>>> * PSF wiki >>>>>> >>>>>> and perhaps more. >>>>> >>>>> That's not a problem, those urls can be made to work just fine as >>>>> exceptions. I can write apropriate rules if there is a decission to >>> make >>>>> the change. >>>> >>>> Could you elaborate a bit ? What are those "exceptions" ? >>> >>> It's not a technical term, I meant it literally. Basically you can >>> configure the web server so that the urls of those other wikis lead to the >>> respective applications, while all other urls lead to the default python >>> wiki. I think it doesn't even require rewrite rules, as scriptalias >>> directives are evaluated in order of occurence. We would of course still >>> have a redirect from the old /moin url. >>> >> >> If there are no objections, I would say - Radomir, go for it. =) >> To summarize what do we want to do and how it will behave after the >> migration: >> >> * wiki.python.org/PageName - is a new shorter way of accessing Python >> knowledge base >> * wiki.jython.org/PageName - is a new shorter way to access Jython pages >> * wiki.python.org/moin/(.*)$ - will be a permanent redirect to >> wiki.python.org/\1 to save external links from breaking >> * wiki.python.org/jython/(.*)$ - the same to wiki.jython.org/\1 > > I don't think this will technically work with MoinMoin, since it > needs the URL prefix to distinguish between the wiki instances > in a farm installation. > > We could have a redirect from anything not a wiki instance > prefix to wiki.python.org/moin/\1, but the wiki pages themselves > would still need to use the /moin/ prefix.
I'm sorry, but I must protest here. As one of the core developers of MoinMoin I have never heard about such a limitation -- perhaps in was there in some older versions of MoinMoin, from before I joined. In fact, the wikis at *.moinmo.in itself are running as a farm, as far as I know, and they are all top-level wikis. The regular expressions in farmconfig can match the domain names just fine. Even if there was such a limitation, it would be very easy to work around with Apache's rewrite rules. There are no technical problems preventing us from using the setup that Anatoly described, and I will be glad to configure the wikis once an agreement is reached. > BTW: What's so bad about the prefix advertising the use of > MoinMoin for the Python.org wiki ? Personally I don't mind it. I'm just trying to say that there are no technical requirements for it. -- Radomir Dopieralski, http://sheep.art.pl _______________________________________________ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www