* Barry Warsaw <[email protected]>: > I really almost hesitate to send this, not because I'm not entirely > sympathetic to the cause, but because political discussions are always > problematic and perhaps more so because of the PSF's non-profit status. > Still, SOPA and the like are evil pieces of legislation that will have > seriously dire consequences to Python and python.org. Notwithstanding the > recent backtracking on these bills, I wonder if we should blackout as well for > solidarity (and self-interest). > > I'm deliberately sending it here first, although the board would likely have > to decide too. The question is, if we wanted to participate, would it be > technically feasible given our volunteer resources?
postmaster hat on:
Yes, we can blackout mail for that time
SOPA:
Personally I don't think we need to start a discussion on it. We can just vote
and do what the vote returns.
p@rick
>
> -Barry
>
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>
> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 17:21:45 -0800
> From: Jeff Marshall <[email protected]>
> To: Hank Leininger <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Archiver-policy] Impact of SOPA?
>
>
> Hi Hank, great to hear from you.
>
> We've been discussing it this weekend and we are leaning strongly towards
> doing a full blackout for the day on the 18th. We plan on deciding tonight.
>
> We haven't gotten any legal opinions on the proposed legislation, but our
> IANAL interpretation is pretty dire like yours.
>
> It would be great if several of us participated in the blackout together
> resulting in more awareness across the spectrum.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Hank Leininger <[email protected]> wrote:
>
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> > Hi folks,
> >
> > MARC admin here.
> >
> > What are your thoughts on the impact of SOPA on public mailing list
> > archives hosted in the United States?
> >
> > IANAL, and I can't keep up with the various modifications to SOPA and
> > Protect-IP that keep coming, but my impression is that it would be a
> > death sentence: we would be obligated to review all messages for
> > copyrighted content prior to posting, make us liable for any
> > violations, and of course, get our sites taken down/blocked based on
> > unsupported claims (i.e. no due process; guilty until proven
> > innocent).
> >
> > I'd expect to have to shut MARC down, or move it out of the US (and no
> > longer touch it myself, any more). So, I am thinking of participating
> > in the SOPA Blackout Day on Wednesday.
> >
> > I'm curious what the Jeffs think, if you've gotten any legal opinions
> > on the matter, considered participating in the blackout, etc.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Hank
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> <html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Hi Hank, great to hear from
> you. </div><div><br></div><div>We've been discussing it this weekend and
> we are leaning strongly towards doing a full blackout for the day on the
> 18th. We plan on deciding tonight. </div><div><br></div><div>We
> haven't gotten any legal opinions on the proposed legislation, but our IANAL
> interpretation is pretty dire like yours. </div><div><br></div><div>It
> would be great if several of us participated in the blackout together
> resulting in more awareness across the
> spectrum. <br><br>Jeff<br><br></div><div><br>On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:52
> PM, Hank Leininger <<a
> href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>>
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> up with the various modifications to SOPA and<br>Protect-IP that keep coming,
> but my impression is that it would be a<br>death sentence: we would be
> obligated to review all messages for<br>copyrighted content prior to posting,
> make us liable for any<br>violations, and of course, get our sites taken
> down/blocked based on<br>unsupported claims (i.e. no due process; guilty
> until proven<br>innocent).<br><br>I'd expect to have to shut MARC down, or
> move it out of the US (and no<br>longer touch it myself, any more). So,
> I am thinking of participating<br>in the SOPA Blackout Day on
> Wednesday.<br><br>I'm curious what the Jeffs think, if you've gotten any
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