On 23 Oct 2012, at 11:21, "M.-A. Lemburg" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 23.10.2012 12:07, Michael Foord wrote:
>> A suggestion on managing the feed of news items that appears on the front 
>> page of python.org.
> 
> The current system for posting news entries on python.org uses the 
> newsindex.yml
> file which basically lists calendar entries in ReST format. I suppose
> we could simply add a flag to those entries to disable their display on the
> frontpage and only have the items listed in the RSS feed (that's how we
> do this at eGenix).


That's not a bad idea. It's all about to change though. Are the new design 
teams on this list?

Michael

> 
>> All the best,
>> 
>> Michael Foord
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Justin Blank <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: Python.org front page news features (near-)duplicates
>>> Date: 23 October 2012 01:17:35 BST
>>> To: Michael Foord <[email protected]>
>>> 
>>> As I said, the point is that updates displayed on a webpage should be
>>> decoupled from the RSS feed. RSS is plumbing.
>>> 
>>> Here is one idea: a widget displays the n-most recent items in the RSS
>>> feed by default (or it could be all entries more recent than a certain
>>> date). However, a human can override that default, and either a) keep
>>> certain items displaying for longer, or b) hide entries (like release
>>> candidates) that have been superceded by more recent developments. .
>>> 
>>> Release candidates are important news when they happen. They cease
>>> being news once the actual software is released. At that point, they
>>> are history, and are of interest to a limited set of people.
>>> 
>>> Justin
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Michael Foord <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hello Justin,
>>>> 
>>>> The main use case for the RSS feed is to be consumed via feed readers, so 
>>>> most people will see items as they are posted rather than all at the same 
>>>> time. I don't see how else we could generate a useful feed of news items 
>>>> other than as they are posted though. Betas and release candidates of new 
>>>> versions of Python is important news after all.
>>>> 
>>>> All the best,
>>>> 
>>>> Michael Foord
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 22 Oct 2012, at 20:10, Justin Blank <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On the python.org front page, there is an RSS feed of news. At
>>>>> present, this displays the fact that Python 3.3 was released (good),
>>>>> but it also dispays three additional 3.3 release candidates. Since
>>>>> seven news items are displayed in my browser, that means almost half
>>>>> of them are wasted. I am personally insane enough to be curious what
>>>>> the schedule of release candidates was for already released software
>>>>> (indeed, I have checked that information for several operating systems
>>>>> and other pieces of software recently), but it's not what I expect to
>>>>> see when I go to the python website, or what I'd expect most users
>>>>> would like to see.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Of course, these are perfectly reasonable items to include in an RSS
>>>>> feed, which one assumes will be consumed the first time it's seen, but
>>>>> I think what that shows is that the front page news feed needs to be
>>>>> decoupled from the RSS feed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Justin
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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