On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 2:16 AM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss <[email protected]>wrote:
> Hi folks -- > Hi jacobian, > A couple weeks ago at PyCon we announced the "preview" of the new > python.org: http://preview.python.org/. You'll recall that the PSF put > out an RFP and had a bid process; our work has been the result of > that. > > We'd announced it in a number of places, but as Aahz just pointed out, > I forgot to ask for feedback on the site here. I'm really sorry -- > that's a major oversight. > > It's very much still a work-in-progress -- major sections are not > done, and most of the content is still lipsum -- but I'm interested in > any and all feedback anyone's got. There's a feedback form on every > page which you can use, or feel free to email me directly. > My IMHO. Good sides like design choice, as always, are missing from these rants. 1. Top menu. Are there any public stats about how many times every top link is clicked? Everyone is curious, and this also a starting point for usability study until the design is fixed in stone. Education and Docs carry all the same meaning for me. Community deserves to be placed as a last item on that menu. With all respect to PSF that I have, PSF info is not that important for site users as community stuff like planet. And everyone determined to know about who is Python "powered by", can look into the footer anyway. 2. Excessive navigation for items already present in top menu Docs and documentation takes five blocks on main page. Jobs takes two blocks. Downloads take three blocks. 3. No login/profiles 4. Site is not open source, which is strange and alienating for open source folks. There is no better resource to learn than a working code. 5. Python -> Downloads as the most frequently visited should be bold and at the right (easy to spot for returning visitors) "Frequently visited" should not a be a subjective judgement. 6. The blank space to the right of Python logo should contain a six words phrase about what's what? This is for people who is not familiar with the site. 7. Success stories bearing thumbnail for each story are more interesting than a raw text. 8. It is more intuitive for me to control top sections with background color coding, not with the menu color coding. 9. No API 10. Horizontal scrollbar in Chrome. I guess that design is all feedback that's possible to be provided for now. Other questions are hard to discuss without something already working. For example, the documentation needs an online edit / review system. It is not even clear if this feature is planned, and how it should be added. One major flaw is that there is absolutely no place for development. The key point IMHO around which everything else should be based in open source process. I understand that commercial companies are not used to customers who aim to provide that kind of activities, but PSF as a product owner should have prioritized this aspect unless it wants to make Python development an inhouse process. If anyone has specific concerns about specific parts of the site and > want to talk in depth I'd be happy to set up a > phone/skype/hangout/whatever chat. I'm more or less free all next > week, so just let me know. > I'd be interested to know about the usability development strategy. Right now it looks like just a catalog of links. If no usability study is planned on this phase, I can propose some stuff. Also something about Jobs. Thanks, and again sorry that I failed to announce this here. The positioning of the whole process could be more public and community centric. =) I am more than inclined that there are many people out there who'd like to know the process of building such complicated site as *. python.org from scratch to exchange the experiences. I am even sure that people will fund the open development through kickstarter campaign to learn about A/B testing, usability study techniques, role of statistics and arts. I am also sure that people will be happy to help with development of reusable components that may be required to build python.org Also, Sprints and donation system for sprints, for sponsored development and other initiatives. I'd like to see that platform. Not just a new web 2.0 design. Take this with a grain of salt. It is good that somebody works on this. Good luck with your quest, and feel free to contact me for details. -- anatoly t.
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