On 10 Aug 2014 22:55, "Steve Holden" <[email protected]> wrote:
> The web site is an open source project. It isn't the sense of what's needed that's absent, it's a busy crew of volunteers swarming all over the site code (including HTNML and CSS) making it better. It's an active team of developers anxious to make python.org the best open source language web site in the world. Without that, little else is going to help. I consider python.org to be in a similar place to where distutils-sig was around 18 months ago - not in a position to make autonomous decisions, and hence not a place where volunteers are likely to be keen to participate. In the distutils-sig case it was python-dev that needed to more effectively delegate decision making authority to empower an already interested community, and at PyCon 2013, the decision was taken to update PEP 1 to address that core problem. End result: a flourishing Python Packaging Authority, and a package installer shipping by default with CPython. For python.org, it is the PSF board that needs to delegate more effectively, but just as in the distutils-sig case, properly empowering the python.org team requires changing the power structures governing the relationships between various groups. As with any delegation of authority, however, trust and respect are key elements. In the distutils-sig case, that was built up mostly through the pip, wheel and crate.io projects. For python.org, we don't yet have anyone demonstrating the same kind of initiative, independence and interest that was demonstrated by the leads of those projects. Regards, Nick. > > Given the lack of response to my post, what difference do you think these changes would make? > > S > > > > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Steve Holden <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi! Could we maybe set up a once-monthly FAQ post giving noobs the lowdown > >> on how to reach the repo and build a local site copy? > >> > >> S > >> > >> On Aug 5, 2014, at 11:41 PM, Michael Foord <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Begin forwarded message: > >> > >> From: Jessica McKellar <[email protected]> > >> Subject: [Pydotorg] Fwd: pydotorg 'easy' github issues > >> Date: 6 August 2014 07:43:01 EEST > >> To: pydotorg <[email protected]> > >> > >> Hi folks, > >> > >> Brianna is interested in adding some labels to pydotorg issues, but that > >> action is restricted to project admins. > >> > >> 1. Can someone who is a project admin either add these labels, or engage > >> Brianna CC'ing this list about alternatives? > >> > >> 2. How can I check who the project admins are? > >> > >> 3. Is restricting labels to admins the right level of restriction? > >> > >> -Jessica > >> > >> > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> From: Brianna Laugher <[email protected]> > >> Date: Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 8:35 PM > >> Subject: pydotorg 'easy' github issues > >> To: [email protected] > >> Cc: Nick Coghlan <[email protected]> > >> > >> > >> Hi Jessica! > >> > >> I'm at PyCon AU sprints and Nick suggested that pydotorg could be a good > >> project for newbies to contribute to. > >> > >> I went through the issues and I suggest that it could be useful to tag the > >> following issues as "easy pickings": > >> > >> - Add note in README for how to contribute #60 (add link to mailing list) > >> - Dead link and typo #422 > >> - "Become a member" link points to the wrong page #397 > >> - newjobs/review statusaction #447 > >> - job board - extra escaping #446 > >> - PSF recognizes *three* categories of members #429 > >> - docutils admonitions no longer stand out #428 > >> - PSF: Mission links to membership FAQ entry that no longer exists #392 > >> - Order download files better #273 > >> - Accented characters broken for Python donor list #254 > >> > >> It would probably also be useful for some issues to be tagged as "PSF input > >> needed" or something similar (this might be synonymous with "content", but > >> Nick mentioned the admin around pydotorg is still a bit amorphous). > >> > >> cheers > >> Brianna > >> > >> > >> -- > >> They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: > >> http://modernthings.org/ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pydotorg mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ > >> > >> May you do good and not evil > >> May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others > >> May you share freely, never taking more than you give. > >> -- the sqlite blessing http://www.sqlite.org/different.html > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Psf-redesign mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-redesign > >> > >> > >> Steve Holden [email protected] +1 571 484 6266 @holdenweb > >> -- > >> Want to come to the most fabulous Python web conference ever? 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