On 21.12.2014 00:14, Martijn Faassen wrote: > Hi there, > > [I'm not sure where discussion about the wiki content should go, > perhaps not here, in which I apologize. please skip to read the > bottom] > > I noticed a recent change to the > https://wiki.python.org/moin/WebFrameworks that moved Grok (I > framework I helped found) down from the popular frameworks. I agree > with that move; it's not been popular for a while now and was never as > popular as, say, Pyramid or Flask are now. > > Here are some concerns I have with the current page: > > * Frameworks that I consider are big and get a lot of attention such > as Flask and Pyramid do not come under any "popular" heading. But they > are very popular, and right now they're ranked with obscure things > like BlueBream or Aquarium. I don't think this reflects the state of > the Python community. If you're going to do popularity stuff at all, > why not list some of the popular non-full stack frameworks? > > * Why are some frameworks in a table format (which gives them more > attention, I think) and some not? I can see doing so for popular > frameworks, but why do it for some other full stack frameworks and > some not? > > * A framework like wheezy.web is considered "full stack" and is > highlighted in a table as such. I appreciate wheezy.web, but I really > think this is unfair to frameworks like Pyramid and Flask, which offer > more or less the same facilities. You can argue they offer some of > them through extensions, but so does wheezy.web. If you're going to > say wheezy.web is full stack, then so are Pyramid and Flask. > > For a traditional Python full-stack framework I'd look for something > like tight database integration and a form generation system, like > Django has, or Grok has. wheezy.web is far more "roll your own". (For > a more modern full-stack framework a lot of it might be done > client-side instead) > > Finally, I'm the developer of a non-big non-full-stack framework > called Morepath. I'd like to see it added to the page somewhere too. > (http://morepath.readthedocs.org). > > If someone gives me editor access I can see about making some edits > myself, but I'd be happy if someone else took care of these concerns > too. > > My account name is MartijnFaassen
I've added you to the editors. Happy editing ! Regarding this particular page, please have a look at the editorial notes at the end of the page. IMO, the table format makes the page look nicer, but someone should then reorg all entries into this format. -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Dec 21 2014) >>> Python Projects, Coaching and Consulting ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC Plone/Zope Database Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ 2014-12-11: Released mxODBC Plone/Zope DA 2.2.0 http://egenix.com/go67 ::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! :::::: eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ _______________________________________________ pydotorg-www mailing list [email protected] https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
