On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 11:19 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <m...@python.org> wrote: > Anatoly, > > in case you *still* haven't realized it, we are not interested > in *your* "contributions" or "discussion input", since they are > not helpful and only result in our productive contributors > wasting time on having to read your comments, close tickets, > etc.
Looks like a crisis from here. Contributors base that doesn't have any people who can talk. Why do you think the contributor's base is not growing? Maybe *I am* that reason? I have the power to butcher any positive or good idea that could attract people, I have a plenty of time for discussions. I have dark powers over Python community and corrupted your souls long ago so that you've became the infected agents with a mission to put an end to the glorious march of Python over the World. Suffering from responsibility and longing for a sun, you can not abandon your quest. I hope you did't take all that stuff seriously. But there might be some truth. This list dedicated to web site development has no website related traffic since the start of this year. It is not normal for such supposedly high traffic site as python.org, because there are always people who learn Django and Python and want to see some good existing codebase. People here could have a chance to discuss this and improve the situation, but it won't happen, because I touched the idea, so it is doomed. > Please stop your annoying quest. Quests I am interested in usually solve systemic problems. The conflict usually arise when people don't get it. If you know somebody how can discuss this without touching people who directly day to day are part of that problems - I will be interested to learn from them and put this in practice. So maybe inviting me to join PSF is a better way to resolve the problem than giving me commit rights to pythondotorg repository. If I am part of the PSF, then I will have to blame myself then, right? Let's get to example of non-systemic construcrivism so that people who used to deal with this kind of tasks, could also find this thread useful. This is a problem I was trying to solve: https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues/731#issuecomment-198965059 The designer can not test his branch anymore. My attempt to setup development environment resulted in a few errors and a few tickets like the one that python.org doesn't work with latest Python stable: https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues/906 It was annoying to waste time trying to run the site with latest Python version, and dealing with non-obvious stack traces, but how it was addressed after issue appeared? "Anatoly, please stop opening tickets for feature requests. You are using up time of our volunteer contributors, with no real benefit for anyone." This is the message that is officially sent to public - that opening tickets and feature requests are wasting time of contributors. This is the offical "moderator action" - because who would think that the official member is closing issue on the ground that issue submitter is a not a proper quality person to be a contributor? Python has a diversity statement, so what's wrong with that particular message from "Anatoly"? > Thanks, > -- > Marc-Andre Lemburg > Director > Python Software Foundation (PSF) > http://www.python.org/psf/ "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster..." -- Friedrich Nietzsche P.S. Actually the only reason why I have so much free time is because I don't have a job - nobody needs those invalid people who can't write any code, blame everybody around and just waste everybody's time, so economy will take care of me soon and Python community will be able to breathe freely again. Just don't put any more landmines there. -- anatoly t. _______________________________________________ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
