On Saturday 16 June 2007 01:18:49 pm Marius Gedminas wrote: > On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 09:32:09AM -0700, Casey Duncan wrote: > > On Jun 16, 2007, at 8:56 AM, Laura Creighton wrote: > > [..] > > > > >If you use Model-View-Controller like separation of your code, > > >None. All your changes will be in the drawing. > > > > I'm curious how many of you actually employ MVC using pygame, since > > the library encourages mixing the model and view via sprites. I'd be > > interested to see a "canonical" example of a pygame that uses MVC. > > I don't know about canonical, but PySpaceWar uses pure MVC. I think; I > never fully understood the "controller" part of it; my views are often > also controllers. > > http://mg.pov.lt/pyspacewar/http://mg.pov.lt/pyspacewar/ > > There were two reasons for making the model independent of views: > > * I wanted beautiful and understandable code > * I want to add network play at some undetermined point in the future
I'll take a look at that. But when you say making the model independant of views, what exactly do you mean? > > MVC has strong advantages when you need to present and interact with > > the same data in multiple ways, but often in simple games data is > > only presented a single way. Using MVC has advantages for unit > > testing as well, but how many pygames actually employ unit tests in a > > meaningful way? > > For some low-level functions (e.g. vector math) unit tests were rather > useful. Also, I couldn't have refactored the AI code that Ignas > Mikalajūnas wrote for me without writing a set of unit tests for it. > Other than that, my initial resolution to have everything covered by > unit tests evaporated pretty rapidly when I got caught in the frenzy of > prototyping the fun stuff. What's unit testing? I wouldn't be surprised if I knew what it was, but didn't know what it was called. I also wouldn't be surprised if I never had the slightest idea what it was, either. > > I'm curious how widespread these practices really are in the pygame > > community, not to make a point for or against them, but to better > > understand theory vs. practice. I'm curious about everything.
