Hey,

I don't maintain the documentation or the contents of the wiki... but I bet 
those people read this list and can comment.  Seems like the need here is a 
link to the python tutorial maybe.  If that would be helpful, feel free to add 
that to the wiki where you think it would be most useful:

http://docs.python.org/tut/

Thanks!
Phil

RR4CLB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:         
 Phil,
  
     You should contact the people  who do the tutorials or documentation and 
have them give better examples. A  clearer way with more examples which explain 
all the variables inside all events  and commands in Python and Pygame. I find 
the documents use the same 3 words all  the time but are meaningless unless a 
detail of what is being said is shown;  class, instance, method, class  
instantiation...Blah, Blah, Blah!! Eventually you do not know what there  
talking about because they keep on repeating the same words to explain  
themselves, thus all is lost in the reading.
  
     I am giving you an example of  just one page of the W3 schools and how 
they do there page formats. The better  one to get a hint on is the JavaScript 
tutorial where they gave examples which  are not only displayed but you can 
click on to edit, modify and even run so you  can see what the function does 
and even change it to see what it does to the  edited version. The perfect 
interactive tutorial which allows you on line to  learn and even play with the 
examples to learn more by doing and experimenting.  
  
     This would be the best way to  have the web site displayed with both 
learning and learning tools.
  
     Below I first give you the link  to all the tutorials and you can select 
from there. The PHP one I just picked  the page for the math function and all 
its possibilities. All functions have a  link to show examples. In Java Script 
there would also be an HTML page to test  it out.
  
     To even try and find all the  variables for the Pygame functions and what 
is used you have to search and  search and see who may have done it or use the 
Dict function to expose it but  even then there is no explanation on how to use 
that to expose functions and  there content...
  
          Bruce
  
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PHP Math Introduction
The math functions can  handle values within the range of integer and float  
types.
Installation
The math functions are part of the PHP core. There is  no installation needed 
to use
these functions.
PHP Math Functions
PHP:  indicates the earliest version of PHP that supports the  function.
Function
Description
PHP
abs()
Returns the absolute  value of a number
3
acos()
Returns the arccosine of a  number
3
acosh()
Returns the inverse hyperbolic cosine of a  number
4
asin()
Returns the arcsine of a  number
3
asinh()
Returns the inverse hyperbolic sine of a  number
4
atan()
Returns the arctangent of a number as a numeric value  between -PI/2 and PI/2 
radians
3
atan2()
Returns the angle theta of an  (x,y) point as a numeric value between -PI and 
PI  radians
3
atanh()
Returns the inverse hyperbolic tangent of a  number
4
base_convert()
Converts a number from one base to  another
3
bindec()
Converts a binary number to a decimal  number
3
ceil()
Returns the value of a number rounded upwards to the  nearest integer
3
cos()
Returns the cosine of a  number
3
cosh()
Returns the hyperbolic cosine of a  number
4
decbin()
Converts a decimal number to a binary  number
3
dechex()
Converts a decimal number to a hexadecimal  number
3
decoct()
Converts a decimal number to an octal  number
3
deg2rad()
Converts a degree to a radian  number
3
exp()
Returns the value of Ex
3
expm1()
Returns the  value of Ex - 1
4
floor()
Returns the value of a number rounded  downwards to the nearest integer
3
fmod()
Returns the remainder  (modulo) of the division of the arguments
4
getrandmax()
Returns the  maximum random number that can be returned by a call to the rand() 
 function
3
hexdec()
Converts a hexadecimal number to a decimal  number
3
hypot()
Returns the length of the hypotenuse of a right-angle  triangle
4
is_finite()
Returns true if a value is a finite  number
4
is_infinite()
Returns true if a value is an infinite  number
4
is_nan()
Returns true if a value is not a  number
4
lcg_value()
Returns a pseudo random number in the range of  (0,1)
4
log()
Returns the natural logarithm (base E) of a  number
3
log10()
Returns the base-10 logarithm of a  number
3
log1p()
Returns log(1+number)
4
max()
Returns the  number with the highest value of two specified numbers
3
min()
Returns  the number with the lowest value of two specified  numbers
3
mt_getrandmax()
Returns the largest possible value that can  be returned by mt_rand()
3
mt_rand()
Returns a random integer using  Mersenne Twister algorithm
3
mt_srand()
Seeds the Mersenne Twister  random number generator
3
octdec()
Converts an octal number to a  decimal number
3
pi()
Returns the value of PI
3
pow()
Returns  the value of x to the power of y
3
rad2deg()
Converts a radian number  to a degree
3
rand()
Returns a random integer
3
round()
Rounds  a number to the nearest integer
3
sin()
Returns the sine of a  number
3
sinh()
Returns the hyperbolic sine of a  number
4
sqrt()
Returns the square root of a  number
3
srand()
Seeds the random number  generator
3
tan()
Returns the tangent of an  angle
3
tanh()
Returns the hyperbolic tangent of an angle
4
PHP  Math Constants
PHP: indicates the earliest version of PHP that supports the  constant.
Constant
Description
PHP
M_E
Returns e (approx.  2.718)
4
M_EULER
Returns Euler's constant (approx.  0.577)
4
M_LNPI
Returns the natural logarithm of PI (approx.  1.144)
4
M_LN2
Returns the natural logarithm of 2 (approx.  0.693)
4
M_LN10
Returns the natural logarithm of 10 (approx.  2.302)
4
M_LOG2E
Returns the base-2 logarithm of E (approx.  1.442)
4
M_LOG10E
Returns the base-10 logarithm of E (approx.  0.434)
4
M_PI
Returns PI (approx. 3.14159)
3
M_PI_2
Returns  PI/2 (approx. 1.570)
4
M_PI_4
Returns PI/4 (approx.  0.785)
4
M_1_PI
Returns 1/PI (approx. 0.318)
4
M_2_PI
Returns  2/PI (approx. 0.636)
4
M_SQRTPI
Returns the square root of PI (approx.  1.772)
4
M_2_SQRTPI
Returns 2/square root of PI (approx.  1.128)
4
M_SQRT1_2
Returns the square root of 1/2 (approx.  0.707)
4
M_SQRT2
Returns the square root of 2 (approx.  1.414)
4
M_SQRT3
Returns the square root of 3 (approx.  1.732)
4
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 ----- Original Message -----  From: Phil Hassey  
 To: pygame 
 Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 10:50  PM
 Subject: [pygame] pygame.org website  update
 

Hey,

I've been pretty busy lately (with Galcon!)  But  I've had a handful of 
requests and fixes piling up for the pygame.org website  ... I decided to plan 
an afternoon this coming week to get around to it.   So if anyone has noticed 
anything that is awful about the website, or has a  really cool (but easy to 
implement ;) idea for it, do tell me and I'll consider  it for my TODO list.

Also, if you have e-mailed me about anything, feel  free to remind me... it 
probably wouldn't hurt.

Thanks!
Phil
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