Well, the clients could probably implement their own package manager, so you
can obviate the need for atomic packages for windows. There's no reason to
punish the users of windows.

-Tyler

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Cary Harper <[email protected]>wrote:

> @Evan - The pygame.cnr.com would be for all platforms and devices, so to
> answer your question, no, we could leverage the platform independence of
> Pygame.  The ARM app store would be another instance of the main app store
> dedicated to ARM devices.  The devices will have a bundled client set to
> load the app store, so everyone who buys one of these devices will be routed
> to the app store.  There could potentially be many app stores, one for each
> device manufacturer.
>
> @Yanom - For Debian Linux we use the debian packaging system to manage
> dependencies with dpkg as the installer and apt-get as the solver.  For
> Windows systems would we need some sort of atomic package or as has been
> suggested some sort of packaging management to insure the proper
> dependencies are installed with the game?
>
> @Jordan - Those sounds like some pretty cool features.  We have a rating,
> review and popularity ranking system now.  We would need to work on the rest
> of it.
>
> Thanks for the feedback.  I am going to move forward setting up a site.
>  Please keep the ideas coming.
>
> Regards,
>
> Cary
>
> On May 13, 2009, at 4:34 PM, Jordan Applewhite wrote:
>
> I've also been dreaming of a pygame distribution platform.  I imagined
> something Steam-like that had social features like a friends list, a minimal
> chat client, reddit or digg-like user rating system to rank 'hotness', and
> the ability to invite people to multiplayer games.  Also, since it seems
> like most pygames are FOSS, you could do neat things like p2p distribution
> and some kind of integrated support for mods or accepting patches.
>
> I know I went overboard seeing as all you're talking about is a package
> manager, but it seemed like an appropriate time to pipe up with this idea
> soup I've been simmering for awhile:)
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Yanom Mobis <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  how bout some sort of "Pygame Deployment System" like this:
>>
>> Pygame, SDL, and common libraries are built into the PDS.
>>
>> The user selects the game to download from a Tkinter interface.
>>
>> The game will be downloaded from a server. It will contain a file that
>> describes dependencies. Any dependencies are downloaded (and compiled, if
>> necessary, with the instructions provided by the game's file) into
>> $HOME/.pds/
>>
>> Upon launching the game, the PDS will run something like this:
>> import sys
>> sys.path.append($HOME/.pds/)
>> import game_mainfile
>>
>>
>>
>> just my idea. tell me what you think.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On *Wed, 5/13/09, Evan Kroske <[email protected]>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Evan Kroske <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [pygame] App Store
>> To: [email protected]
>> Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 5:03 PM
>>
>> Would the store really need to be specialized to ARM devices? One of
>> pygame's main goals is platform independence, so it seems that an app store
>> providing PyGame-based games would appeal to all Linux distros..
>> I think this sounds like a timely idea that will fill a growing niche: the
>> desire for games on Linux without installation hassles. Many more people
>> would try PyGame-created games if they could install them and run them
>> through a gui without copying files or using the terminal.
>>
>> Anyway, that's my two cents.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Evan Kroske
>>
>> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Cary Harper 
>> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Folks,
>>>
>>> Over the last two years the company I work for has been putting Linux on
>>> x86 based netbooks, but now MS has squashed that with offering exclusive
>>> deals to hardware companies for distributing Windows 7.  In a couple of
>>> months, some of these hardware companies will be coming out with Linux based
>>> netbooks on an ARM architecture that we hope will server to ignite more
>>> interest in ARM and Linux.
>>>
>>> To do this, we know that we need to create excitement and a good user
>>> experience for the end user.  To that end we are polishing the UI as much as
>>> possible and we are looking to get the support of communities like Pygame to
>>> develop and publish applications for these netbook devices in an app store
>>> dedicated to ARM-based Linux devices.
>>>
>>> The app store will support all software licenses with download links for
>>> source code where applicable as well as an ecommerce module for non-free
>>> software.  To evaluate the app store experience you can check out
>>> presto.cnr.com, eeedownload.cnr.com and www.cnr.com.
>>>
>>> The reason I think the Pygame platform is so important is because 70% of
>>> the applications downloaded on the iPhone were games, with another 20% being
>>> entertainment type applications.
>>>
>>> We are doing work to make sure SDL and numerics are optimized for running
>>> on this ARM platform.
>>>
>>> What I would like to know is if this kind of opportunity is something
>>> this community would be interested in.
>>>
>>> Additionally, I can also offer to host an app store just for Pygame
>>> software, supporting all OS types, for free.  The url would be
>>> pygame.cnr.com and I would give creative control over the branding of
>>> the site and the promotion of software on that site to the community.
>>>
>>> Hopefully you don't think this offer too lame or spam-like.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Cary
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 9, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Chris McCormick wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Yes. Anything to break the current app-store hedgemony run by the big
>>>> corporations.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Chris.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 03:56:18PM -0700, Cary Harper wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Would anyone be interested in putting their software into an App Store
>>>>> for ARM Linux Netbooks?
>>>>>
>>>>>  -------------------
>>>> http://mccormick.cx
>>>>
>>>
>>> Cary Harper
>>>
>>> Senior Software Development Manager
>>> Xandros, Corp.
>>> 858.774.0943  |  858.587..6700 Ext 153
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> Cary Harper
>
> Senior Software Development Manager
> Xandros, Inc.
> 858.774.0943  |  858.587.6700 Ext 153
>
>


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