On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:21 AM, lkcl luke <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Jeff Kunce <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yeah, I'm top posting. The thread is Promoting Pyjamas - and might as > well > > just end here. > > > > There is an open source community - and "community" suggests a group of > > people have set of principles that they agree to work with in common, at > > least for purposes of the community. > > > > Luke, I admire you for sticking to your principles. But the other kids > just > > aren't going to play with the boy who makes up his own rules and insists > > that they are the only way the game can be played. > > > > You do amazing work, and I'm thankful for that. I'm just sad that you > hide > > this product behind walls of ideological crankiness. > > it's not as quotes bad quotes as people make out. and i've decided > on my principles: i worked hard to come up with them: it would be damn > stupid of me to abandon them, wouldn't it? > > plus, there is another reason that i haven't mentioned explicitly: by > saying "no, you can't take the easy way out", once the grumbling's > stopped, there's been more activity sorting out the infrastructure - > which involves other people actually talking and coordinating and > writing python and pyjamas apps than there has been in a long time.. > hasn't there? > > and once it's done, i'm sure that the people who did that will feel > proud to have done it, won't they? it's *their* community, not some > jack-ass piece of shit that can't be modified. you _did_ see peter's > request to enable the feature of allowing him to close bugreports? > because it's a proprietary monetarily-zero-cost service on > code.google.com that cannot happen, can it? > > i have good reasons, jeff - they weren't just made up on the spur of > the moment "i know i'll decide to make peoples' lives hell". > > l. I really do understand, Luke. And I mean it when I say I admire you. However, the thread is "Promoting Pyjamas." The first step in doing that would be to join in the standard (if not best) practices of the community. When you give a sexy demo at pycon - people want to go to the site and start playing with it, even before your talk is finished. If those first steps are successful, they will join the mailing list to learn more. If they have more success, they will contribute. Easy access with familiar tools *is* Promoting Pyjamas. Any barriers you put in the way of that process is *not* Promoting Pyjamas. Truly-free-services, eat-our-own-dogfood-tools, no-www-urls, independent-nameservers, append-multiple-lkcl-causes-here ... all good things ... but when those things come first, the adoption of Pyjamas suffers. -- Jeff
