(04.02.2012 22:51), lkcl luke wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Lukasz Mach<[email protected]>  wrote:
>> >  (03.02.2012 21:33), Amit Deshwar wrote:
>>> >>  Can someone explain to me the moral objection to www?
>   it's not a moral principle - it's "leading by example".  [...]

Adding www.pyjs.org 30x redirection to http://pyjs.org could be leading 
by example too.

Many browsers (chrome IIRC and I noticed such behaviour in FF) adds www. 
automatically, when they have trouble getting in into typed in address. 
Worse, sometimes they remember it until restart. In effect, someone type 
pyjs.org, browser from time to time converts it automatically to 
www.pyjs.org, and "Firefox cannot find server name, ensure that you 
typed it correctly".

I understand why you don't like http://www.pyjs.org being primary 
address. I completely don't understand, why you don't want to let 
someone enter your site by typing www.pyjs.org in address bar. Yes, I 
read what you wrote, but still I don't understand. Sorry.

>
>   pyjamas is bloody innovative.  innovations are disruptive.  get used
> to innovation being disruptive!

Let people know about that innovation. First feeling of newcomer, if he 
enters www.pyjs.org: "oh, site is down, I will add to bookmarks and will 
try to try again later". Second, after he finally gets in, "oh, someone 
wrote page in late 90' and didn't update it, probably abandoned project".

I don't remember if I had first thought, but I definitively had second 
thought, about 2 times. I remember that I heard about python gwt port, 
thought "yay, I must use it", got second thought. Next I heard somewhere 
that it's not abandoned project and that it in fact works, tried second 
time.

Next I faced fact that official access to mailinglist doesn't work, 
cannot login there, wiki is strange, git browser even stranger, 2 git 
locations etc...

I was very insane motivated to use pyjamas. Insane, because *everything* 
says here "it cannot be good tool, don't waste your time". It's like I 
decided that I will write webserver using netcat and awk about 10 years 
ago. I was insane motivated to do it, just to check that I can. Wity 
pyjs is the same - I started using it, just to check that I can. I'm 
still not convinced that it was good decision from business point of view.

How do you think, how many people was not so motivated and decided that 
they will use other toolkit for their applications?

>   come on folks.  discuss something useful, for goodness sake.
being reachable by people is quite useful.


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Ɓukasz Mach
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