If you type in "pyjs" in firefox and hit ctrl-shift-enter, then it
automatically sends you to www.pyjs.org and its LESS keystrokes than
typing "pyjs.org". So whats more efficient now?

So instead of allowing other people to waste time on typing www.
(while you can skip it yourself) you will have to spend much more time
explaining such a ridiculous decision to everybody - net time profit =
negative.

Is pyjamas only made for l33t haxx0rz, or do we want webdesigners (you
know, people who dont use linux!) to use it instead (a much bigger
group of people)? If it is the latter then we really need to polish
the experience of starting out with pyjamas and theres is nothing that
web designers find less professinal than a website that doesnt work
both with and without www.

I myself am more of a designer than a programmer. Therefore i cant
contribute much to the innards of pyjs but what i can do is help the
experience of pyjs - which is for example why ive been working on
improving the showcase example. so yes complaining about www. _IS_ my
contribution.




On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 10:00 PM, lkcl luke <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Peter Bittner <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> We all on this mailing list, however, are smart people, right? We are
>> technicians, aren't we?
>
>  i bloody well hope so!
>
>> We all know that www is totally unnecessary in
>> front of any domain name. And we as software people, we understand
>> that plain domain names are much much more sexy than stupid www
>> preceeded domain names. As pyjs.org is a site for technicials, but
>> also non-tecchies have a right to find the site, we should of course
>> also have a DNS entry for www.pyjs.org and redirect any requests to it
>> to http://pyjs.org (using RedirectPermanent).
>
>  i was always puzzled as to why the guys from blackcatnetworks didn't
> have a www. domain name (at all).  i forget the logic, but i too was
> very confused by it, at the time, by their insistence that there *not*
> be a "www." domain.  however, the logic of their argument sank in, at
> some deep level, and i then just followed it.
>
>  i think the most compelling argument however is that it's a whopping
> 33% increase in letters to be typed.  i'd rather that completely and
> utterly failed, teaching people *not* to waste their time by typing
> dubllew dubblew dubblew because they didn't f*****g well read what it
> said on the tin.
>
>  if there exists a redirect, then people will start linking to that,
> typing that and so on.  i. do. not. want. people. wasting. their.
> lives. typing. pointless. letters.  especially. when. i. said. it.
> was. only. 8. letters. not. f*****g. 12.
>
>  it said "pyjs.org", it f*****g well means "pyjs.org".  why would you
> be so stupid as to insert a full 33% extra letters that were not even
> said or read???
>
>  why is this even being discussed... *instead* of developing pyjamas
> applications and/or improving the pyjamas code-base and/or the web
> site??
>
> l.



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