lkcl luke writes: > this is getting nowhere, and is wasting time. Marketing is not a waste of time.
> it makes me look like a complete fool to have to constantly go on > the defensive. Trust me, you're not looking like a fool just because you're defending yourself. ;-) > in areas where i do not have any expertise or any specific goals, you > are absolutely and without hesitation ENTIRELY free to do WHATEVER you > choose (as long as it is not disruptive). Marketing. How's your marketing skills? Are they without reproach? * * * A good leader can read between the lines. The "promoting pyjamas" thread wasn't about "www". Not really. It was about, and this may be a shock to some, "promoting pyjamas." And by extension, Luke, your leadership. It was about leadership because there are a number of dysfunctional areas in this project development which have been brought up time and again: the absolutely horrible website. the brain dead wiki, the gawdawful MailApp. Multiple gits. Hg vs git (being a python project). And yes, the stupid "www" issue. Each of these are in total control (or nearly) of Luke. Each of these issues are solved technologies requiring no pyjamas app. We could be using Google Groups or Mailman. We could be using MoinMoin or other python-based wiki. But the attitude of eating our own dog food keeps getting in the way. Luke, you are making HORRIBLE MARKETING decisions. These are not technical issues. For someone who cries publicly so much about the lack of being paid for your free contributions, it's a bit mind-boggling how you get in your own way in promoting an amazing technology so that it is ADOPTED by the MASSES (you want that, don't you?) and then AS THE TECHNICAL DRIVING FORCE behind the technology you get riches thrown in your lap! :) Luke, I'll use your own argument against you: stop wasting our time; start making smart marketing decisions and adopt proven technologies and protocols that are welcoming to developers and users of this API. Cheers, Dan
