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2012/2/5 Daniel Popowich <[email protected]>: > > lkcl luke writes: >> this is getting nowhere, and is wasting time. > > Marketing is not a waste of time. > >> it makes me look like a complete fool to have to constantly go on >> the defensive. > > Trust me, you're not looking like a fool just because you're defending > yourself. ;-) > >> in areas where i do not have any expertise or any specific goals, you >> are absolutely and without hesitation ENTIRELY free to do WHATEVER you >> choose (as long as it is not disruptive). > > Marketing. How's your marketing skills? Are they without reproach? > > * * * > > A good leader can read between the lines. The "promoting pyjamas" > thread wasn't about "www". Not really. It was about, and this may be > a shock to some, "promoting pyjamas." And by extension, Luke, your > leadership. > > It was about leadership because there are a number of dysfunctional > areas in this project development which have been brought up time and > again: the absolutely horrible website. the brain dead wiki, the > gawdawful MailApp. Multiple gits. Hg vs git (being a python > project). And yes, the stupid "www" issue. > > Each of these are in total control (or nearly) of Luke. Each of these > issues are solved technologies requiring no pyjamas app. We could be > using Google Groups or Mailman. We could be using MoinMoin or other > python-based wiki. But the attitude of eating our own dog food keeps > getting in the way. > > Luke, you are making HORRIBLE MARKETING decisions. These are not > technical issues. > > For someone who cries publicly so much about the lack of being paid > for your free contributions, it's a bit mind-boggling how you get in > your own way in promoting an amazing technology so that it is ADOPTED > by the MASSES (you want that, don't you?) and then AS THE TECHNICAL > DRIVING FORCE behind the technology you get riches thrown in your lap! > :) > > Luke, I'll use your own argument against you: stop wasting our time; > start making smart marketing decisions and adopt proven technologies > and protocols that are welcoming to developers and users of this API. > > Cheers, > > Dan
