One thing that turned me against ToscaWidgets and other widget
generators (FormAlchemy) is that there's essentially a mini-template
somewhere generating the HTML, plus other templates for each widget
type.  So customizing the HTML means overriding those templates, which
are in a different location and maybe in a different language than
your page templates.  That made me feel like "What's the point?" when
Mako has such powerful function tools to make the layout just the way
you need it.

I'm still interested in ToscaWidgets for the widget-HTML-Javascript
bundling... after the C dependencies and injection issues are
resolved.

So I think Pylons was right to offer a minimal approach as a baseline,
and then support other approaches as extras.  And I'm glad that
FormEncode/htmlfill is so modular that it can work with all these
approaches.

-- 
Mike Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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